Assassination attempt on Trump

[Playa]

Who is their people?

He was a police officer. He should know that if he wants something held longer then he/they should have gotten a restraining order. West b if it had been 4 days? A week? Two weeks like DfA mentioned?

I have been to a few autopsies including doing the official photographs for the case files. Once the slicing and dicing is done, once the blood, other tissue and samples are taken, it’s then turned over the family. The family calls the funeral home og their discretion and they start their process. Whether they have a cremation two days or two weeks later, their preservation process begins almost immediately.

I read a report when all of this bubbled up, that the coroner for the Butler area who was in control of the body was unaware that the FBI was taking the body for cremation and did not follow protocol or procedure.

and this was a main stream report, not some blithering idiot on X

[Death from Above]

You can hide a lot by calling it incompetence...

[TKC]

The autopsy and toxicology might not be completed for weeks or even months. That has zero to do with cremation.

There are plenty of analogies in evidence gathering.

It is no different than seizing a cell phone for evidence but the evidence might not be actually recovered until well after the warrant expires. It is still lawful. The warrant is to grab the phone, not to complete the tests.

DWI blood tests….

Drug possession tests….

DNA tests…..

And so on, any of which can take quite a while but it doesn’t matter if the police have lawful possession of the evidence.

In the autopsy they can take all of the photos, tissue such as brain tissue and blood as well as other evidence such as urine or stomach contents.

It might take months for results but the evidence was gathered and secured before the body is released.

It has everything to do with samples and follow ups and retests. Also there are others that usually will require or want said samples and not the same samples pulled from Feds.

This investigation is not like the others and I wonder why? If there was ever one they needed to slow down on was this one and they did the opposite.

So now what happens when and if the samples are tainted at best and can’t be used? Or the only available samples are that the feds have secured? It is bad investigating of the highest order.

[sqiggy]

This whole ordeal stinks. Have not heard much if anything since that day. Why are the parents not speaking out?? Has anyone even been fired?? So many questions and no answers!!

[tvc184]

It has everything to do with samples and follow ups and retests. Also there are others that usually will require or want said samples and not the same samples pulled from Feds.

This investigation is not like the others and I wonder why? If there was ever one they needed to slow down on was this one and they did the opposite.

So now what happens when and if the samples are tainted at best and can’t be used? Or the only available samples are that the feds have secured? It is bad investigating of the highest order.

Death from Above says that usually two weeks is a minimum and n his experience

Again, why didn’t anyone who is now crying foul, seek a restraining order?

It has been six weeks since the incident. Why is this now becoming an issue?

Shouldn’t action to protect evidence been done six weeks ago?

[glen]

Nothing obtained in an after death examination would change a thing. Intoxication? Who cares and would not surprise anyone. Screwed up brain? Again would not surprise me. In process of changing sexual identity? Again who cares and not shocking.

as long as there has been photographs of resting position and of wounds position of the bullets that killed him should be able to be determined. Just from photos it should be easy to determine which direction the LE shooters were.

What difference does it make if he was disposed of a day or a year after the incident? Trying to wrap head around the possible cover up by disposal of body

[tvc184]

Nothing obtained in an after death examination would change a thing. Intoxication? Who cares and would not surprise anyone. Screwed up brain? Again would not surprise me. In process of changing sexual identity? Again who cares and not shocking.

as long as there has been photographs of resting position and of wounds position of the bullets that killed him should be able to be determined. Just from photos it should be easy to determine which direction the LE shooters were.

What difference does it make if he was disposed of a day or a year after the incident? Trying to wrap head around the possible cover up by disposal of body

I saw this in the movie Shooter.

They had to flush the guy’s system of the same drugs “the agency” uses.

This guy could have been drugged by “the agency” and that’s what caused all of this fiasco!!

[TKC]

Death from Above says that usually two weeks is a minimum and n his experience

Again, why didn’t anyone who is now crying foul, seek a restraining order?

It has been six weeks since the incident. Why is this now becoming an issue?

Shouldn’t action to protect evidence been done six weeks ago?

I agree with you completely on this. This is just more questions than answers. This is why I refuted your premise earlier that this was some sort of standard operating procedure. Sidenote I would agree with your original premise if there was the ability to exhume the body of need be. That is not the case and there I lies my rub with part of the fiasco.

[IowaHunter]

Is it odd that the shooter’s body was cremated two days after the shooting? Is this normal practice, time-wise?

It took a week to get the license from the state of Texas for my wife’s cremation. I find it odd that the process for his was streamlined.

[tvc184]

In reference to the cremation two days after the shooting and the brouhaha that followed after Representative Clay Higgins wanted to view the body, we have this.

The shooting took place on July 13th. The FBI held onto the body for 10 days. It was then turned over to the family. Higgins showed up to view the body on August 5th or a little over three weeks after Thomas Crooks was killed.

So the body was held for 10 days and then released to the family and about two weeks after that, Higgins was apparently appalled that the cremation had already taken place…. three weeks after the death.

I read this on a few news sources out of curiosity as to the actual time frame after reading these conspiracy theories. Here are some quotes:

Rep. Clay Higgins, R-La., claimed after a few days visiting the Butler Farm Show grounds and interviewing local law enforcement that the FBI released the crime scene too early, “cleaned up biological evidence” from the scene, and released the gunman’s body to his family 10 days after the shooting — which he argued amounted to “obstruction.”

AND

Mr. Higgins said his effort to examine Crooks’ body on Aug. 5 created “quite a stir and revealed a disturbing fact … the FBI released the body for cremation 10 days after July 13.”

Without digging further I am going to guess that the “two day” cremation was two days after the body was released to the family. According to other searches I found that on Pennsylvania law is a person cannot be cremated until 24 hours after death. The permit can be signed after a medical examiner signs the death certificate (required within 72 hours) and another person (I forgot who) has another 48 hours to sign off on it. It appears that in Pennsylvania, within five days “maximum”, a cremation can be performed.

[tvc184]

Here is the news site where I copied the quotes and other days the same.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2024/08/16/trump-butler-rally-shooting-fbi-evidence/stories/202408160080

[Box-R]

I saw this in the movie Shooter.

They had to flush the guy’s system of the same drugs “the agency” uses.

This guy could have been drugged by “the agency” and that’s what caused all of this fiasco!!

... or recover the chip that they put in his brain.

[Artos]

I still say the whole thing smells.

https://x.com/chiproytx/status/1828168531357376522

[rolylane6]

... or recover the chip that they put in his brain.

I must admit, I had this thought. I rule nothing out anymore when it comes to the evil and it's intent on destroying us.

[BowhunterB]

I still say the whole thing smells.



https://x.com/chiproytx/status/1828168531357376522

I said the exact same thing the first moment they said he had no digital footprint - because it was wiped by the FBI before the shooting occurred. If they would have said minimal, may have believed it, but every kid his age has some sort of online history.