Synod on Synodality

[4wheels]

What is synodality?


Synodality means journeying together as the People of God. It indicates a way of listening to each individual person as a member of the Church to understand how God might be speaking to all of us. In this way, synodality reminds us of the work of the Holy Spirit through each of us and through all of us working together for our common mission.

So the Catholic Church had a Synod on Synodality.

I guess in simple Texan it means - a bunch of Bishops got together and had a meeting about the Catholic Church. The pope is using this as an opportunity to announce a change in it's teaching about religion. One of the topic is about how to include the lgbt+-abcdefg people. Basically the church wants to be more inclusive and allow these folks in.

Naturally there are people in the church resistant to this change.

There is a Bishop in Tyler Texas that has been removed by the Pope. This Bishop has been very critical of Pope Francis. To me this Pope is a communist. He supports every progressive agenda from climate change, anti-capitalism, anti-independent thought. To me it is strange to see a religion change its stance / interpretation about something like homosexuality.

But here it is.

Disagree? - Loose your job. Even if your a Bishop.

[4wheels]

Hopefully a more clear description about what a Synod is...

[4wheels]

The end result of the meeting is a document describing what the church learned from this process.

[flywise]

If I was catholic I'd convert to something else until they got their **** straight and removed this demon they call pope.

[4wheels]

1. In the Continental Assembly, as in our national reports, there was a deep desire for greater inclusivity and welcome within the Church. In fact, one of the major factors that was seen as breaking down communion was the experience of many that certain people or groups feel unwelcome in the Church. The groups named during the Continental Stage included women, young people, immigrants, racial or linguistic minorities, LGBTQ+ persons, people who are divorced and remarried without an annulment, and those with varying degrees of physical or mental abilities.

It seems to me the devil is successfully destroying the world using the weapon of inclusivity.

God help us all..

[M16]

What about their discrimination against non catholics receiving communion? I’m sure they’ll address that issue as well.

[4wheels]

Not sure how that is discrimination. But it probably will not be dealt with. I think my main point is the devil is attacking religion and winning.

[WItoTX]

Religion is the sole problem with being faithful. It's a situation of "Let's create all these rituals and steps and we are going to play music, then stand up and sit down 27 times, and you must always stand up with the right foot first because."

Seriously, it's the zealots that push these idols upon us that is the problem. The Pope is no more or less of a human than me. He is not more holy. He is just a person.

Get your Bible out and read what it says. Google the locations, the names, the background facts. The Bible, and God specifically, provides very simple directions on how to live life. Simple, not easy. Beyond that, there is zero leaders in the church besides my pastor that I trust, and even his interpretation of the Bible will be different than mine.

[donpablo]

1. The groups named during the Continental Stage included women, young people, immigrants, racial or linguistic minorities, LGBTQ+ persons, people who are divorced and remarried without an annulment, and those with varying degrees of physical or mental abilities.

It seems to me the devil is successfully destroying the world using the weapon of inclusivity.

God help us all..

This is exactly what Jesus was criticized for, his inclusivity. He was ostracized for reaching out to the people who needed God the most, the sinners. The Pope is undeniably right that the church's job is to reach out and offer salvation to all. So if the people from these groups feel unwelcome, it would be wise to figure out a way to reach out to these groups. This is a hard task as they are charged to do so without changing the moral stance that the Pope has repeatedly affirmed, that homosexual intercourse is forbidden. I just pointed out the other day to my wife and daughter that both the liberal and conservative media were taking liberties to try and make it seem that the Pope was saying more than he actually is. I'm going to agree with 4wheels and say that any time you try and turn a Christian away from his religion/church, you are doing the devil's work. Sure, there are some churches who've gone 180 from Christ's teachings but wouldn't it be their duty to try and fix their church rather than allow it to continue corrupting the Word?

Religion is the sole problem with being faithful...

Beyond that, there is zero leaders in the church besides my pastor that I trust, and even his interpretation of the Bible will be different than mine.

This is why religion is not a bad thing. Without solid leaders inspired by the Holy Spirit, there will be millions of different interpretations and many of those would lead people astray. Examples could be the interpretation that advocates drag shows at church or even the interpretations of Adolf Hitler suggesting massacre.

[WItoTX]

This is exactly what Jesus was criticized for, his inclusivity. He was ostracized for reaching out to the people who needed God the most, the sinners. The Pope is undeniably right that the church's job is to reach out and offer salvation to all. So if the people from these groups feel unwelcome, it would be wise to figure out a way to reach out to these groups. This is a hard task as they are charged to do so without changing the moral stance that the Pope has repeatedly affirmed, that homosexual intercourse is forbidden. I just pointed out the other day to my wife and daughter that both the liberal and conservative media were taking liberties to try and make it seem that the Pope was saying more than he actually is. I'm going to agree with 4wheels and say that any time you try and turn a Christian away from his religion/church, you are doing the devil's work. Sure, there are some churches who've gone 180 from Christ's teachings but wouldn't it be their duty to try and fix their church rather than allow it to continue corrupting the Word?


This is why religion is not a bad thing. Without solid leaders inspired by the Holy Spirit, there will be millions of different interpretations and many of those would lead people astray. Examples could be the interpretation that advocates drag shows at church or even the interpretations of Adolf Hitler suggesting massacre.

Let me ask a question. We know Martin Luther translated the Bible for the masses. Do you think he should have done that? That would have limited how many people could interpret the Bible, and would achieve the same end as what you describe.

I have no problem with like-minded people coming together to be faithful with one another. That is the whole point of a church, why Bible study is important, how uninformed people find God, and how the word of God was passed along for generations BEFORE it was translated into a language for the masses. And let's not forget, our relationship with God is wildly different, person to person. As God intended. After all, he created us as free thinking individuals. If he wanted everyone to follow one specific path, he would not have said "let there be light".

This is a touchy subject, and I am not trying to "call you out", or claim I know more or less than anyone here. But I do respectfully disagree with you on the subject of leading people astray. The Bible provides many branches. We all pick our own branch. Knowing that whatever branch we take, God is the trunk of that tree.

[donpablo]

Let me ask a question. We know Martin Luther translated the Bible for the masses. Do you think he should have done that? That would have limited how many people could interpret the Bible, and would achieve the same end as what you describe.

I have no problem with like-minded people coming together to be faithful with one another. That is the whole point of a church, why Bible study is important, how uninformed people find God, and how the word of God was passed along for generations BEFORE it was translated into a language for the masses. And let's not forget, our relationship with God is wildly different, person to person. As God intended. After all, he created us as free thinking individuals. If he wanted everyone to follow one specific path, he would not have said "let there be light".

This is a touchy subject, and I am not trying to "call you out", or claim I know more or less than anyone here. But I do respectfully disagree with you on the subject of leading people astray. The Bible provides many branches. We all pick our own branch. Knowing that whatever branch we take, God is the trunk of that tree.

I hear you, Brother. And the church credits Martin Luther's bravery for spurring reforms in the church even if they (regrettably) came too late to prevent the large break that resulted. And I agree it's our duty as Christians to do our due diligence and employ our own individual discernment regarding what our pastors/priests/brethren share with us and to speak out when we feel they are wrong.. We also have to be careful not to pick and choose what parts of the Bible to follow. It's tempting to think it's someone else's job to spread the word, someone else's job to serve the poor, etc.

[Man]

I am not sure I can add anything worthwhile to this conversation. So I will just ramble. I grew up Catholic and went to a catholic school. As soon as I was of age and on my own I didn't step foot in a church unless it was a wedding or a funeral. Fast forward to a little over a year ago me, my wife and kids walked into a non-denominational church that was near our house we had drove past for 7 years. Mainly what caught our attention is it had a fishing pond and small animal farm in the front of it and we both had never been into a non-catholic church. We were so openly welcomed and greeted the moment we stepped foot inside. The gentleman at the door bought us some coffee from the coffee bar (I had never seen that in a church before), we took us around the whole campus and then offered to buy us lunch. The campus had games for my kids to play, no one was dressed in suits and ties, very casual come as you are... it was just absolutely amazing. They had a band and played music live during the sermon (we had never experienced that before). Fast forward to the present day. We all look forward to going to church every Sunday. Especially my kids. I now volunteer and maintain that very fishing pond I drove past for 7 years. There are all walks of folks at our new church....even gay people. I have nothing against the catholic church I just believe we will continue to see people like myself look for alternatives in this modern day.

[WItoTX]

I am not sure I can add anything worthwhile to this conversation. So I will just ramble. I grew up Catholic and went to a catholic school. As soon as I was of age and on my own I didn't step foot in a church unless it was a wedding or a funeral. Fast forward to a little over a year ago me, my wife and kids walked into a non-denominational church that was near our house we had drove past for 7 years. Mainly what caught our attention is it had a fishing pond and small animal farm in the front of it and we both had never been into a non-catholic church. We were so openly welcomed and greeted the moment we stepped foot inside. The gentleman at the door bought us some coffee from the coffee bar (I had never seen that in a church before), we took us around the whole campus and then offered to buy us lunch. The campus had games for my kids to play, no one was dressed in suits and ties, very casual come as you are... it was just absolutely amazing. They had a band and played music live during the sermon (we had never experienced that before). Fast forward to the present day. We all look forward to going to church every Sunday. Especially my kids. I now volunteer and maintain that very fishing pond I drove past for 7 years. There are all walks of folks at our new church....even gay people. I have nothing against the catholic church I just believe we will continue to see people like myself look for alternatives in this modern day.

Your story isn't much different from mine 9 years ago. We've since left that church, but that church put us (Mostly me) on a path to always seek one out no matter life's circumstances.

[Drycreek3189]

I don’t need a church or a preacher to know that God created this earth, inspired the written Word, sent his only son to redeem us, and has promised us salvation through Jesus Christ. The pope is as insignificant to me as Joe Biden is.

[donpablo]

I am not sure I can add anything worthwhile to this conversation. So I will just ramble. I grew up Catholic and went to a catholic school. As soon as I was of age and on my own I didn't step foot in a church unless it was a wedding or a funeral. Fast forward to a little over a year ago me, my wife and kids walked into a non-denominational church that was near our house we had drove past for 7 years. Mainly what caught our attention is it had a fishing pond and small animal farm in the front of it and we both had never been into a non-catholic church. We were so openly welcomed and greeted the moment we stepped foot inside. The gentleman at the door bought us some coffee from the coffee bar (I had never seen that in a church before), we took us around the whole campus and then offered to buy us lunch. The campus had games for my kids to play, no one was dressed in suits and ties, very casual come as you are... it was just absolutely amazing. They had a band and played music live during the sermon (we had never experienced that before). Fast forward to the present day. We all look forward to going to church every Sunday. Especially my kids. I now volunteer and maintain that very fishing pond I drove past for 7 years. There are all walks of folks at our new church....even gay people. I have nothing against the catholic church I just believe we will continue to see people like myself look for alternatives in this modern day.

Brother, I'm glad you've found a place that put you on a path to growing your relationship with God. I know that the Catholic Church needs to be more welcoming and I think it sounds like what that meeting was all about. I often envy the commitment of the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. Other denominations are put to shame when comparing our commitment to spreading the Word.