.223 question

[Osceola]

hmmm. I don't know where I have been cause I have never heard of a FMJ hollowpoint. Will a solid metel jacket with a hollow point actually expand on impact?

Hmmm,If you look at the info he gave us to look at it says 55gr HP. wolfhpbx

[Cajun Blake]

hyper,

what type of gun is it ? ... bolt action , AR , semi-auto, single shot, hunting rifle , etc...

it has been my experience that you get what you pay for !!

Wolf ammo is reliable YET the powder is dirty

in other words, accuracy will be affected in fewer rds fired b/c of the powder residue in the barrel .

the barrel will need more cleaning and maintenance when compared to other powders and ammo

others here may have had different experiences and LOVE Wolf ammo, I just shy away from it

Rifle accuracy is ONLY as good as the ammunition used !!

see if you can find some white box Winchester or some Black Hills reloads (blue box i think).

both should only be a few dollars more and will pay for itself in the long run

if your wife only shoots 50 - 300 rds a year, buy the good stuff


perhaps this analogy will make sense: if you drive a BMW M5 , are you gonna buy the $29 tires at Walmart ?? or the $200 Pirelli tires at Brezina Tire & Service


JMO and something to consider

[hyperlitejb]

hyper,

what type of gun is it ? ... bolt action , AR , semi-auto, single shot, hunting rifle , etc...

it has been my experience that you get what you pay for !!

Wolf ammo is reliable YET the powder is dirty

in other words, accuracy will be affected in fewer rds fired b/c of the powder residue in the barrel .

the barrel will need more cleaning and maintenance when compared to other powders and ammo

others here may have had different experiences and LOVE Wolf ammo, I just shy away from it

Rifle accuracy is ONLY as good as the ammunition used !!

see if you can find some white box Winchester or some Black Hills reloads (blue box i think).

both should only be a few dollars more and will pay for itself in the long run

if your wife only shoots 50 - 300 rds a year, buy the good stuff


perhaps this analogy will make sense: if you drive a BMW M5 , are you gonna buy the $29 tires at Walmart ?? or the $200 Pirelli tires at Brezina Tire & Service


JMO and something to consider

Actually it's a Mercedes S500 lol...j/k far from it...but ya i get your point...It is a remington .223 bolt action...great lil gun just low on ammo.

I appreciate all the replies!

[Roy D Mercer]

Hmmm,If you look at the info he gave us to look at it says 55gr HP. wolfhpbx

Not doubting you there partner I just never knew FMJ's came in HP.

[Cajun Blake]

Actually it's a Mercedes S500 lol...j/k far from it...but ya i get your point...It is a remington .223 bolt action...great lil gun just low on ammo.

I appreciate all the replies!

buy the good stuff brother

i wouldn't shoot Wolf ammo in my rifles if I had a lifetime supply , but that's just me

get some PSP (pointed soft point) ammo that you can use for plinking or hunting

[snakejake]

buy the good stuff brother

i wouldn't shoot Wolf ammo in my rifles if I had a lifetime supply , but that's just me

get some PSP (pointed soft point) ammo that you can use for plinking or hunting

x2 just make sure it says 223 Rem

[Shane]

It is, but what is the 5.56x45mm in parenthesis for?

You can shoot .223Rem in a 5.56 NATO gun, but not the other way around.

[Tuffbroadhead]

Lets sum this up fer everyone in a easy to understand manner...


The primary difference between .223 Remington and 5.56 x 45 mm is that .223 is loaded to lower pressures and velocities compared to 5.56 mm. .223 Remington ammunition can be safely fired in a 5.56 mm chambered gun, but the reverse can be an unsafe combination. The additional pressure created by 5.56 mm ammo will frequently cause over-pressure problems such as difficult extraction, flowing brass, or popped primers, but in extreme cases, could damage or destroy the rifle. Chambers cut to .223 Remington specifications have a shorter leade (throat) area as well as slightly shorter headspace dimensions compared to 5.56 mm "military" chamber specs, which contributes to the pressure issues.

While the 5.56 mm and .223 cartridges are very similar, they are not identical. Military cases are made from thicker brass than commercial cases, which reduces the powder capacity (an important consideration for handloaders), and the NATO specification allows a higher chamber pressure. Test barrels made for 5.56mm NATO measure chamber pressure at the case mouth, as opposed to the SAAMI location. This difference accounts for upwards of 20,000+ psi difference in pressure measurements. That means that advertised pressure of 58,000 psi for 5.56mm NATO, is around 78,000 psi tested in .223 Rem test barrels (SAAMI .223 Rem Proof MAP is 78,500 psi so every 5.56mm round fired is a proof load, very dangerous). The 5.56 mm chambering, known as a NATO or mil-spec chambers, have a longer leade, which is the distance between the mouth of the cartridge and the point at which the rifling engages the bullet. The .223 chambering, known as the "SAAMI chamber", is allowed to have a shorter leade, and is only required to be proof tested to the lower SAAMI chamber pressure. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber[2] or the Armalite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm and .223 equally well.

[sailor]

We guys in Weatherford know everything

[Mike D]

We guys in Weatherford know everything

Awww, he just copied and pasted that's all.

Hi Dale.

What are you wanting to do with the ammo? Are you just looking for something to burn up at the range or are you wanting some hunting ammo?

If just range ammo get the Winchester White Box or Black Hills like Blake said. Otherwise get THIS for hunting. I have killed tons of game, both whitetail and hogs with that ammo. It's not cheap but it is effective.

[Tuffbroadhead]

Awww, he just copied and pasted that's all.

Hi Dale.

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LOL! Easier than typing it out all over again..

[rberg]

Before you buy a lot of 1 type, find out what the rifle "likes". My NEF shoots better groups with the Winchester white box 45 grain than any other I've found.

[justintyme8303]

Funny I thought the 223 (5.56mm) was on there just because we are the only country left not using the metric system yet.

[DeerGeek]

If the bow doesn't get the job done for the ranch's doe quota....then my go-to late season doe "harvest" gun is the .223 Rem with 60 grain Federal Nosler Partition.

[EnglishRedneck]

One other point...FMJ are non-expanding, and are illegal for game animals. They are legal for hogs, but an expanding round is much more effective. FMJs are cheaper and good for practice, although many ranges don't allow them either since they are hard on backstops.
If she is hunting, get her decent ammo, preferably 62grains or more, and have her REALLY practice, since the 223 is on the light side for deer, and shot placement will be absolutely crucial.
If it's just plinking, as long as it says 223rem somewhere, blast away!