Cam Phasers anyone?

[RSW0913]

2019 Expedition...Ford says the cam phasers need to be replaced. It's out of warranty so $3400.00. Anyone use their own mechanic and what was the cost? some mechanics i've called don't want to even mess with it....My wife's already talked to Ford customer service once....this seems to be a known issue but they aren't budging on helping any right now.

[Playa]

Here is my advice… spend the $3,400 and get rid of it. Our 2019 has been in the shop now 4 times since august, 2 separate Ford shops have done work and we get 4-6 weeks before it begins all over again.

I’ve never opted for an extended warranty, but wife did on this and I am so glad she did or we would be looking at what our friends just had to do, which was drop a new motor in their 2019…

¡pedazos de caca!

[ShawnG]

I own a shop in Abilene, you’re not going to beat that price. It’s a long tedious job. No one likes those!

[Twist]

Here is my advice… spend the $3,400 and get rid of it. Our 2019 has been in the shop now 4 times since august, 2 separate Ford shops have done work and we get 4-6 weeks before it begins all over again.

I’ve never opted for an extended warranty, but wife did on this and I am so glad she did or we would be looking at what our friends just had to do, which was drop a new motor in their 2019…

¡pedazos de caca!

Admin Casey and I had a brief PM convo about this a couple months ago, and then I think he put a truck up for sale on the forum that needed a new engine.

I have no idea if it was the same truck or even related, but maybe send him a PM and ask for details. Just sad it appears no one can make a quality vehicle anymore unless you get lucky.

[6.5 shooter]

We did one for cold start rattling recently, it was $3200.

[Drycreek3189]

What engine is it and does it carry into the later models or did they fix it ?

[Casey]

Admin Casey and I had a brief PM convo about this a couple months ago, and then I think he put a truck up for sale on the forum that needed a new engine.



I have no idea if it was the same truck or even related, but maybe send him a PM and ask for details. Just sad it appears no one can make a quality vehicle anymore unless you get lucky.

Mine needed it and I was preparing to go that route. Fortunately/ unfortunately it crapped out on me with most likely wrist pin or similar issues. It needed an engine. I sold it to my mechanic.

Mine had the rattle for 140,000 miles. It passed away at 209,000 miles.

I think the price you've been quoted is fair. I've seen where some shops remove the cab to do the repair. It's a big job. Make sure they install the latest generation of those parts or it will come back.

[Casey]

What engine is it and does it carry into the later models or did they fix it ?

3.5l Ecoboost 2011-2021 is my understanding.

[Smokeater]

Ours is an'18. Got the cold start rattle pretty early. Actually got a recall letter on it and it was covered. Ize a bit shocked actually. Been running fine since and no rattle. I think its got 110k on it now. Told her she oughta trade it in. Might as well tell a stump tho...we'll see!

[RamprideHG84]

hmmmm

[RSW0913]

It’s the 3.5….90000 miles….I’d like to fix it and trade it but not sure my wife is ready to part ways.

[Lsube0555]

It’s a known issue for any of the 3.5 ecoboost since 2012. Can’t go back in time but a little research and buying the ford extended warranty would’ve saved you some. Most will just rattle and not have any driveability issues. The rattle usually goes away after a little bit after startup. I had mine replaced under warranty as it was in for a different issues and they noticed it. It’s been that way for 40k miles and drove fine. The other problem is people mistake a rattle on start for the cam phasers when in turn it is the turbo waste gates rattling that is. Known issue as well hard to tell the difference. It’s kinda a crap shoot at this point if it’s just rattling but runs and drives fine then can keep driving it. A lot do the forums have a lot of rattling ones but not a lot of engine failures because of that but lost people I guess get it fixed before that happens. 3500 is pretty standard price and I wouldn’t let anyone but ford do it if it were me unless you know someone local that has done a lot of them. Key is my Ford place had everything in stock dropped truck off Tuesday was ready Thursday. It just sucks because the 3.5 is a beast otherwise

[Playa]

It’s the 3.5….90000 miles….I’d like to fix it and trade it but not sure my wife is ready to part ways.

Just get rid of it. We have multiple friends all with 2018 or 2019 and the cam phasers is just the beginning of your headache.

My 2015, on the other hand has been super dependable. I just replaced the left boosters and will probably need to do the right at some point, but it’s got 150k on it and I can accept that level of routine maintenance.


What’s frustrating thing is, this has blown up our process for never having 2 car payments at the same time

[Mike D]

Cam Phasers anyone?

Admin Casey and I had a brief PM convo about this a couple months ago, and then I think he put a truck up for sale on the forum that needed a new engine.

I have no idea if it was the same truck or even related, but maybe send him a PM and ask for details. Just sad it appears no one can make a quality vehicle anymore unless you get lucky.

I put this on the government and their mandates for higher and higher fuel economy standards. The manufacturers have to try and find work around to fit the requirements. As soon as they have something somewhat figured out they change the rules again.

And no matter how you look at it, $3400 is a hell of a lot cheaper than a new vehicle.


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[Walker]

I gotta say it. $3400 is 5 payments on a Tundra.