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    #61
    Originally posted by Bard View Post
    We only eat grass fed, the reason is because the grain in grain fed is pretty much all bioengineered grain. Not the way God designed it. Same crap in our foods that we don't eat either.

    Grass fed beef is a gimmick for people who believe in this theory.


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      #62
      This is really going to go down a rabbit hole if you start researching but organic grass fed beef for me, all day, in a field that isn’t sprayed with any glyphosates. I order just about all my beef and the color is the same color as the wild game I take. Even the “grass fed and finished” stuff I was getting at H‑E‑B was way too bright and colorful, not to mention full of water. You are what you eat and I don’t want a steer that’s been pumped full of antibiotics and been fed a bunch of gmo grains. It’s a choice and worth the extra money to me. Yes I know the deer I’m killing in Texas are going to roam and eat corn from places no matter what.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Dale Moser View Post
        Grass fed beef is a gimmick for people who believe in this theory.


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        Let's explore this a bit further. Assuming almost all grain fed meat that comes from a super market of restaurant was raised in a feedlot then yes its is also certain that they were fed GMO grains. That is grain that has been bio engineered. For all practical purposes agricultural GMO's were first invented in 1973 with direct manipulation of the organism genome using biotechnology { not nearly as sophisticated a process as imagined} Ultimately leading to round up ready corn, soybeans and a long list of other commercial crops. Long term health studies simply do not exist studying this impact .

        It should also be noted that animals in a feedlot are fed androgen and estrogen hormones to enhance weight gain along with tetracyclines and macrolide antibiotics to keep them healthy. In fact somewhere around 90% { best I remember } of all antibiotic use in the U.S is fed to animals in feedlots.

        One can decide for themself if this has any impact on human health.

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          #64
          Originally posted by elgato View Post
          Let's explore this a bit further. Assuming almost all grain fed meat that comes from a super market of restaurant was raised in a feedlot then yes its is also certain that they were fed GMO grains. That is grain that has been bio engineered. For all practical purposes agricultural GMO's were first invented in 1973 with direct manipulation of the organism genome using biotechnology { not nearly as sophisticated a process as imagined} Ultimately leading to round up ready corn, soybeans and a long list of other commercial crops. Long term health studies simply do not exist studying this impact .

          It should also be noted that animals in a feedlot are fed androgen and estrogen hormones to enhance weight gain along with tetracyclines and macrolide antibiotics to keep them healthy. In fact somewhere around 90% { best I remember } of all antibiotic use in the U.S is fed to animals in feedlots.

          One can decide for themself if this has any impact on human health.
          There are a few other types of GMO’s such as insect resistant, similar to ivermectin's avermectin, its simply a nature occurring protein found in the soil, thats harmless to-humans. We are at 50 years of documented safety of GMO. We can argue a natural harmless soil induced protein GMO vs heavy synthetic external insecticides, in support or non-support of GMO’s, but consumption health issues is not a health factor issue for grain or vegetable GMO’s varieties.

          Regardless of what medicine is used in the pasture or pens they have a mandated withdrawal period and USDA doesnt play.

          As far as estrogen in beef its well documented that phytoestrogen found in Soy is @ substantially higher and more dangerous level then any hormones found in “Fed Meat”.

          Only health argument in grass vs fed is fatty acids that really cant be found in levels high enough to say good or bad between grass vs grain
          Last edited by Texans42; 03-10-2023, 03:33 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by jmack82 View Post
            This is really going to go down a rabbit hole if you start researching but organic grass fed beef for me, all day, in a field that isn’t sprayed with any glyphosates. I order just about all my beef and the color is the same color as the wild game I take. Even the “grass fed and finished” stuff I was getting at H‑E‑B was way too bright and colorful, not to mention full of water. You are what you eat and I don’t want a steer that’s been pumped full of antibiotics and been fed a bunch of gmo grains. It’s a choice and worth the extra money to me. Yes I know the deer I’m killing in Texas are going to roam and eat corn from places no matter what.
            If your field was sprayed with glyphosate it wouldn't have any grass on it.

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              #66
              Originally posted by jmack82 View Post
              This is really going to go down a rabbit hole if you start researching but organic grass fed beef for me, all day, in a field that isn’t sprayed with any glyphosates. I order just about all my beef and the color is the same color as the wild game I take. Even the “grass fed and finished” stuff I was getting at H‑E‑B was way too bright and colorful, not to mention full of water. You are what you eat and I don’t want a steer that’s been pumped full of antibiotics and been fed a bunch of gmo grains. It’s a choice and worth the extra money to me. Yes I know the deer I’m killing in Texas are going to roam and eat corn from places no matter what.
              its bro science, aka marketing. Ive been in cow calf, farming and feeders all my life. I assure you, 99.9% of all cattle get hit with antibiotics and meds @ some point, but just like human medicine its has a withdrawl period where it is no longer found. USDA doesnt play, and is not happy when it tests if meds are found, in grass or grain finished cattle, pork etc. Animal rights activist really sold this one good.


              also glyphosate its self is not harmful (per multiple lab studies) the often added surfactants not so safe.

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                #67
                Fyi, all ground beef is grass fed. It has been our entire lives. Lol.

                Grain fed is better quality for steaks.

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                  #68
                  eat any and all you want and go jogging. Its all good. backstraps last night its all good

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Burntorange Bowhunter View Post
                    Fyi, all ground beef is grass fed. It has been our entire lives. Lol.

                    Grain fed is better quality for steaks.

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                    thats actually incorrect. But a chunk is imported and or grass finished

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Texans42 View Post


                      also glyphosate its self is not harmful (per multiple lab studies) the often added surfactants not so safe.


                      Wait just a minute ! A jury (one jury) found that gly was unsafe and awarded a big settlement (in Kaliforny).

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Drycreek3189 View Post
                        Wait just a minute ! A jury (one jury) found that gly was unsafe and awarded a big settlement (in Kaliforny).
                        lol, ya talk about an interesting civil trial, awarded not on the merits of science based studies but perceived dishonesty of manufacture.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Texans42 View Post
                          thats actually incorrect. But a chunk is imported and or grass finished
                          Which part is incorrect?

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                            #73
                            How many are using that scary GMO corn in their deer feeders? Protein feeders? Cotton seed? How "organic" is that venison?

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Burntorange Bowhunter View Post
                              Which part is incorrect?

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                              no you are right, I re-read my bad. I read it as all burger was grass finished

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Texans42 View Post
                                There are a few other types of GMO’s such as insect resistant, similar to ivermectin's avermectin, its simply a nature occurring protein found in the soil, thats harmless to-humans. We are at 50 years of documented safety of GMO. We can argue a natural harmless soil induced protein GMO vs heavy synthetic external insecticides, in support or non-support of GMO’s, but consumption health issues is not a health factor issue for grain or vegetable GMO’s varieties.

                                Regardless of what medicine is used in the pasture or pens they have a mandated withdrawal period and USDA doesnt play.

                                As far as estrogen in beef its well documented that phytoestrogen found in Soy is @ substantially higher and more dangerous level then any hormones found in “Fed Meat”.

                                Only health argument in grass vs fed is fatty acids that really cant be found in levels high enough to say good or bad between grass vs grain
                                An axiom of life is that perception follows beliefs thus we see what we believe. I'm not here to argue and indeed there are valid discussions on both sides of the isle. I don't look to the govt for matters of my health nor what is acceptable in my food. Heck , I'm one of those insane anarchist that didn't get the vaccine.

                                Agreed some GMO's inject naturally occurring insecticides such as bacillus thuricide into the seed which is harmless to humans. Also agree it's better than spraying insecticides across a field non selectively killing every insect good and bad. But IMO the long term health impact of all classes of GMO's is still an open question.THe good news is that simple economics will ultimately be the undoing of the current conventional agricultural model based on toxic synthetic mostly petroleum based inputs and patented seeds.

                                But I digress. The original intent of this thread was grass vs grain. I'm about 98% grass 2% grain. We can debate health and current ag practices elsewhere

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