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    #46
    Originally posted by Jeremyk View Post
    Every GW I’ve ever met or dealt with is a BOZO/clown they should issue em all a make up kit, a red nose and a pair of big red floppy shoes so the public knows what they’re dealing with as the approach!


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    Ha ha ha … so glad you were just kidding around

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      #47
      Originally posted by RifleBowPistol View Post
      Not surprising at all. Watch a bunch of those game warden shows and watch how far and often those game wardens go over the line, to conclude someone is guilty of breaking a law, that they have zero proof off. Watch North Woods Law, there are a bunch of episodes where they charge guys which all types of charges, with zero evidence. They decide the person is guilty and they charge them, then make up the evidence. Then make the guy look like a total piece of trash. Now I don't agree with what is legal up there and how they hunt in those areas where North Woods Law is filmed, but by their laws it's legal to drive down the road, see a deer, moose, ECT, get out of your vehicle, walk something like 20 ft. off the road and shoot game off of someone else's land. To me that all seems very illegal, but it's legal up there. Bottom line it's a setup. They allow people to do so, then when the game wardens find out someone has done just that, they come along conclude the person was standing in the road or too close to the road and killed whatever game animal. Then they charge them, and make them out to be a total POS on national TV.

      One of the episodes where I am sure they wrongfully convicted a guy, is one where a guy shot a turkey, during turkey season. The guy was driving along, saw a turkey got out and I am sure got far enough off of the road, then shot the turkey. The reason I am sure he was far enough, is they found the wad 55 yards from the road. The guy was shooting a 12 ga. with 3" shells. I know from many years of experience, that a 12 ga. with 2 3/4" shells, won't shoot a wad more than about 30 yards, when shooting at something on the ground. But then take a 3" shell, with a deeper wad, which is going to open larger, making a larger parachute essentially, so it's going to slow down quicker and drop quicker. But in that episode, the game warden called an older game warden for the show, and asked him how far a shotgun wad would travel, when fired. Not a 12 ga. 3" wad, fired horizontally, but just in general. I could see a wad possibly traveling 55 yards, when fired up in the air at a 45 to 75 degree angle, but not when fired horizontal and a turkey standing in tall grass. Since the older more experienced game warden, told the younger game warden all shotgun wads travel 55 yards when fired, he was able to determine the guy shot the turkey from the road. So at that moment they knew he was guilty. So he got the usual 1 year of loss of hunting privileges, big fine, lost his shotgun, ECT. I think the younger officer called the older officer and told him they found the wad 55 yards from the road, they the older one told him, that's the exact distance that all wads travel. That's what they found in their testing years ago. I forgot the rest of the story, but there was other evidence, that supported the idea, the guy was well over 15' from the road. I noticed watching those shows, that some of those states use one distance, the the neighboring state will use a distance 5' farther from the road. But they are all 10' to 20' from the road.

      The fines guys were getting hit with in those north eastern states, is nothing compared to what mid western and rocky mountain states are hitting guys with. Then the loss of hunting privileges, as they call them, then their guns being taken away. Then the usual game warden gets to look like a hero in the national spotlight while the hunter is made to look like a complete POS criminal.

      Then I have read stories about other guys who have dealt with game wardens in other states, where the game wardens made someone who is likely no guilty of any wrong doing, look very guilty, and plaster it all over national news and the internet. The game wardens get their faces in the spot light, and the county or state will get rewarded with some big chunk of money from the charges, if they can make them stick. This situation is getting to be the biggest danger hunters face when they go hunting. Is to be made to look like criminals, loose their hunting rights, then loose their guns used on the hunt, and then the big motivator for the state, are the huge fines.

      I would rather deal with a charging grizzly, than a Wyoming game warden after killing and elk or muley, with him knowing I am from Texas. Texas hunters have the biggest bullseyes on them, when hunting out of state.
      I remember a similar episode where the game wardens found an ejected shotgun shell and used that to justify that he shot to close to some property line. They charged him based upon that evidence alone. Even though he was not using a self ejecting gun and no telling where he actually would have ejected the spent shell.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Jackal View Post
        I remember a similar episode where the game wardens found an ejected shotgun shell and used that to justify that he shot to close to some property line. They charged him based upon that evidence alone. Even though he was not using a self ejecting gun and no telling where he actually would have ejected the spent shell.
        A court or decent lawyer would've thrown that out in a heartbeat.

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          #49
          with the new digital licenses, anyone using them is now sending a virtual invite to the game warden to check their tagging!

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            #50
            I wish we had more Leo's and Mr green jeans. But I do believe some should be taken out to pasture. The only negative encounter that I've personally be a part of was we had a game warden at Middleton try giving my buddy a ticket for shooting too many mottle ducks. The thing is my buddy shot mallard hens. Once we pointed out the difference he agreed we were right and the rest of the experience was pleasant enough.

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              #51
              All I can say is I stayed up waaaay past my bedtime last night going down a rabbit hole with this civil right dudes video's after watching the one posted above. Last one I remember before I knocked out was the cop who arrested the guy because he laughed at him during a traffic stop.

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