Would hate to be a resident of Utah

[jt400]

Try reading the constitution again..... I mean for the first time. Then explain what section utilizing a camera to assist in the taking of a natural resource would fall under.

Secondly, please explain how a properly elected government does not have the right to regulate a government owned resource.

This entire discussion to me is hilarious. I don't care about tree cams, hell I just checked one, because I like watching the deer when I can't hunt. That being said, this is a state purview, and the state decided they wanted to lower the efficacy of hunters.

That is 1 of 2 ways to limit harvest, and preserve resources. The other is to issue less tags. While some would argue that the state just wants more money, maybe they are trying to give more opportunity.

They don't care about how many animals are harvested. BUT if they can hurt the success ratio they sell twice as many tags to achieve the same harvest. Its absolutely all about the money. Which side are you gonna be on when it sets off?

[jt400]

In the end, the DWR says their surveys showed most of the public opposed the use of cellular trail cameras that transmit real-time images and footage. However, the board decided they would ban both transmitting and non-transmitting types of cameras used "in the harvest or to aid in the harvest of big game between July 31 and Dec. 31.) This ban applies to both public and private land.

This thread is seriously disappointing me. We're Texans. We're not supposed to support government overreach. Read above. This isn't what the people wanted. They got duped. Wake up.

[wytex]

Why are we even arguing about another state? We live in Texas, sure some of y’all hunt it and that’s fine. Let’s move on already


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I find these threads interesting, hence I comment, but I agree.
The residents of Utah pushed for this, seems they don't agree with some of you all. If you don't like their laws don't go hunt there. Their game and they get to make the rules.

Sounds like your seasons are looking up after recent rains.
We finally had a break in our extreme heat and got a little moisture too.
Forest Service did just put fire restrictions on our forest here in S. Wyoming. No campfires now unless in permanent fire rings, ugh...

Looking forward to seeing some nice bucks posted from down there.

[flywise]

the state of texas tells you that you can't kill a deer from february-august. How dare they overstep your right to kill the food you want to eat.

smh

[Rubeng]

Why are we even arguing about another state? We live in Texas, sure some of y’all hunt it and that’s fine. Let’s move on already


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[Gclyde28]

I don't understand everyone's gripe about the difference between public and private in this instance. The animals might venture from one to the other multiple times a day. Why should the private land be given the advantage.

Should private land have more generous seasons (how about all year long) vs public land hunting seasons?

If you wanted to argue about high fence private places like we have all over the place here in Texas, sure have at it, but low fence private is the same as public in my eyes with regards to regulations.

[Gclyde28]

I don’t guess I have a problem with cellular cams on public land. Regular cams on public, well honestly don’t care but private lands not leased to the gov. No way they should be able to do that

The state of Texas tells you that you can't kill a deer from February-August. How dare they overstep your right to kill the food you want to eat.

[wytex]

If I read correctly, according to the article, you can still use Plot Watch cameras as they are not triggered by motion or heat. Is this correct?

"A trail camera is defined as a device that is not held or manually operated by a person and is used to capture images, video, or location data of wildlife and uses heat or motion to trigger the device."

It says non hand held cameras here so I think not legal unless it is for monitoring the crops.

R657-5-7. Prohibited Weapons.
(4) Use of specialized hunting technologies and equipment.

(a) A person may not use any night vision device to locate or attempt to locate a big game animal from 48 hours before any big game hunt in the area through 48 hours after any big game hunt ends in the area;

(b)(i) A person shall not place, maintain, or use any trail camera or non-handheld device capable of capturing image, video, location, time, or date data in the field to take, attempt to take, or aid in the take or attempted take of big game between July 31 and December 31;

(ii) Engage in the sale or purchase of trail camera or other non-handheld device media, including images, video, location, time or date data to take, aid in the take or attempted take of big game; or

(iii) Engage in the storage and sale or purchase of stored media, including images, video, location, time, or date data to take, aid in the take or attempted take of big game.

(c) The prohibition on the use of trail cameras does not apply to:

(i) private landowners monitoring or protecting their property from trespass;

(ii) monitoring active agricultural operations;

(iii) to aid in the take of bear and cougar depredating livestock; and

(iv) municipalities participating in the Urban Deer Program.

(d) trail cameras and other non-handheld devices described in Subsection 5-7(4)(b)(i) on private property cannot be used to take, attempt to take, or aid in the take or attempted take of big game between July 31 and December 31.

[Graysonhogs]

You are exactly right. I’m just opining where my line is drawn.

Yeah, we all do.

[TxBowHntr]

If I read correctly, according to the article, you can still use Plot Watch cameras as they are not triggered by motion or heat. Is this correct?

"A trail camera is defined as a device that is not held or manually operated by a person and is used to capture images, video, or location data of wildlife and uses heat or motion to trigger the device."

[M16]

You can use that argument at literally any rung of the hunting "ladder". Seems most people's convictions/opinions stop when it reaches a method they use. That's my $.02 anyway.

You are exactly right. I’m just opining where my line is drawn.

[wytex]

I did and the answer I got when googled it was an older answer. It is legal to bait except for hunting purposes.

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title23/Chapter16/23-16-S11.html?v=C23-16-S11_2021050520210505

Only legal to lure game animals away from crops and you must have a permission to do that.

[wytex]

They (cameras) take the hunt out of hunting yet it is legal to use bait in Utah. That kind of takes the hunt out of hunting doesn't it?

All cameras do is take pictures.

Baiting is illegal in Utah now, the good folks there got that passed along with the trail cam ban base on the actions of some well known outfitters.

[Graysonhogs]

I see it as a good move. Game cameras take the hunt out of hunting.

You can use that argument at literally any rung of the hunting "ladder". Seems most people's convictions/opinions stop when it reaches a method they use. That's my $.02 anyway.

[Kong]

The government’s done such a great job making the best secessions for us over the years,why should anyone question it,,, said nobody with an IQ over 3 ever……