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Originally posted by AntlerCollector View PostI much prefer places that have daily fees and kill fees. That way you don’t waste $5,000 on a weekend without a shot opportunity
t make anything. In your future endeavors look for this kind of operation. The guides and owners work harder knowing that if they don't, they spend a lot of time for nothing. Also don't ever go on a hunt that has 8 pig hunters in a camp with trophy deer hunters.
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I agree I should have done more research it was honesty last minute and I screwed up. I realize it is what it is, and had they been more responsive to our issues I wouldn’t even be typing. Again I’m not looking for anyone to feel bad for me. I don’t know any of you and chances are I never will. But as a hunter I feel it’s necessary to give a report on this place. If someone feels the terms were fair that’s great. But for my situation where I drove 15 hours. Bought a $300+ license and paid for a crappy time.
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Sorry you had a bad experience OP. I’ll preface this by saying I’ve never heard about this operation and don’t know anything about them. Not connected with them in any way, shape or form.
Here’s some food for thought on the guide thing though.
I haven’t guided anyone other than friends or family in 8 or 10 years, but I’ve guided hunts in the past. Once you’ve guided some and get some experience and networking, the guiding circle is pretty small. There can be a lot of opportunities that come from it. When guys trust you, know you’re good with clients, and know that you know deer and aren’t going to let a hunter shoot the wrong thing or make a mistake, it can open up a lot of doors.
I can set my watch that every December I’ll get texts from different people on different ranches looking for guides, even though I haven’t guided in about a decade. Ranches are short on guides which can be due to a variety of things, last minute bookings, other guides had stuff come up, etc. I’ve never seen or set foot on many of these places, but most people on this board would recognize the ranch names if I shared them.
Having a guide that’s never been on the ranch is not uncommon. On some of these guide gigs, the only info you get is dates, day rate, a pin to the ranch gate, and the gate code. Sometimes you don’t even know what the hunter is looking for or what you’re guiding until you get there. On some places, you get price breakdowns (esp. places with exotics), but on some you don’t. Asking about does, pigs, varmints, etc. can require the guide checking back with the landowner/outfitter, since the guide may not know what’s included in the package. Not the best way to do business, but it can be the reality.
Not dogpiling since I know you're just sharing info., but I’m actually very surprised they dropped you off alone in the blinds on a management deer hunt. I don't know of any places that would let hunters sit alone to buck hunt. Hopefully sharing what you shared helps someone else avoid that situation in the future
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Originally posted by MooseontheLoose View PostSorry you had a bad experience OP. I’ll preface this by saying I’ve never heard about this operation and don’t know anything about them. Not connected with them in any way, shape or form.
Here’s some food for thought on the guide thing though.
I haven’t guided anyone other than friends or family in 8 or 10 years, but I’ve guided hunts in the past. Once you’ve guided some and get some experience and networking, the guiding circle is pretty small. There can be a lot of opportunities that come from it. When guys trust you, know you’re good with clients, and know that you know deer and aren’t going to let a hunter shoot the wrong thing or make a mistake, it can open up a lot of doors.
I can set my watch that every December I’ll get texts from different people on different ranches looking for guides, even though I haven’t guided in about a decade. Ranches are short on guides which can be due to a variety of things, last minute bookings, other guides had stuff come up, etc. I’ve never seen or set foot on many of these places, but most people on this board would recognize the ranch names if I shared them.
Having a guide that’s never been on the ranch is not uncommon. On some of these guide gigs, the only info you get is dates, day rate, a pin to the ranch gate, and the gate code. Sometimes you don’t even know what the hunter is looking for or what you’re guiding until you get there. On some places, you get price breakdowns (esp. places with exotics), but on some you don’t. Asking about does, pigs, varmints, etc. can require the guide checking back with the landowner/outfitter, since the guide may not know what’s included in the package. Not the best way to do business, but it can be the reality.
Not dogpiling since I know you're just sharing info., but I’m actually very surprised they dropped you off alone in the blinds on a management deer hunt. I don't know of any places that would let hunters sit alone to buck hunt. Hopefully sharing what you shared helps someone else avoid that situation in the future
I agree with this, this issue isn’t necessarily just that he had never been there. It was the fact that he seemed to have zero work ethic what’s so ever. How would you feel if your guide told you about his nap he took while you were out? I’m not saying it’s the worst thing in the world but it’s not very professional. And as far as sitting alone I completely agree. We were given a quick guide on how to age a management deer and dumped off. Literally that’s it, we are from Colorado so aging whitetails isn’t a strong suite. And yes the property is not ran by the owners anymore. And wasn’t when we were there.
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Originally posted by Blessed to hunt View PostSorry you didn't shoot the doe you were told you could shoot, I definitely would have if that's what they had said or put in the ad , hope you have better luck next time you're in the woods, thanks for sharing so the rest of us can avoid the same wonderful time
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