Alec Baldwin involved with shooting.

[Duckologist]

IMO you should not have to check because you should never point a real gun at another person.



I wouldn't be an actor where real guns were being aimed at me all day long.

They're not supposed to point the guns at their fellow actors

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[RiverRat1]

They're not supposed to point the guns at their fellow actors

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If they had zero real guns on set it wouldn't matter.

But even if not pointing at other actor it's probably aiming at someone. Movie sets are full of people.

[Encinal]

I have stated that point a few times. I can guarantee that John Wayne and Clint Eastwood have pointed real guns at people.

Accidents can certainly be criminal though.

Using Texas as an example (with each state having its own laws), the lowest culpable mental state is criminal negligence, defined as:

….when he ought to be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's (suspect) standpoint.

Key in the definition is… “as viewed from the actor’s standpoint”.

Convicted in a crime or not, as the producer and in control of everything on the set, he is still responsible for everything under civil law.

The reason they have an armorer on set is exactly because these folks aren’t weapons experts. Armorer, 100% has explaining to do. Actor, not so much.

Call me a cynic, but no one is putting the Santa Fe DA on TV for a month for the Armorer alone, so here we are.

[tvc184]

The reason they have an armorer on set is exactly because these folks aren’t weapons experts. Armorer, 100% has explaining to do. Actor, not so much.

Call me a cynic, but no one is putting the Santa Fe DA on TV for a month for the Armorer alone, so here we are.

I think that’s what I said.

[IowaHunter]

Last week a radio report said they already settled civilly with the families. If so, that’s their way of getting ahead of the prosecutor.

[Encinal]

I think that’s what I said.

I haven’t read 5 pages of this 😂

[Quackerbox]

IMO you should not have to check because you should never point a real gun at another person.



I wouldn't be an actor where real guns were being aimed at me all day long.

Don't train with us

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[DFA]

Does anyone know if the incident happened "during" a scene or was it while they were hanging out between scenes? Also, him saying he didn't pull the trigger??? yeah ok, the gun went off on its own. That right there proves he is a liar

[bloodtrailer28]

Great point. I feel the same way. I don’t like the guy’s opinions either. Do ANY actors check their guns before a scene? Not saying they shouldn’t.

If this was one of these guys favorite actor that shared the same ideas this would be a different conversation.


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Wrong but I'd bet you'd be saying something different if he pointed a gun at one of your family members and pulled the trigger. Oooppps didn't think it was loaded so it's an accident. Highly doubt your opinion would be that he should get off free.

[bloodtrailer28]

The reason they have an armorer on set is exactly because these folks aren’t weapons experts. Armorer, 100% has explaining to do. Actor, not so much.

Call me a cynic, but no one is putting the Santa Fe DA on TV for a month for the Armorer alone, so here we are.

Isn't he the producer that had a hand in hiring this "armorer"?

[tvc184]

Wrong but I'd bet you'd be saying something different if he pointed a gun at one of your family members and pulled the trigger. Oooppps didn't think it was loaded so it's an accident. Highly doubt your opinion would be that he should get off free.

Pointing at a family member isn’t a movie set where fake guns, fake bullets, prop guns and real guns are mixed.

[tvc184]

Isn't he the producer that had a hand in hiring this "armorer"?

A few weeks ago it was in the news that an assistant manager at a Walmart shot and killed several people at work. Does the person that hired him go to jail for murder?

[Encinal]

Isn't he the producer that had a hand in hiring this "armorer"?

We gonna charge all owners of a small business that has an employee screw up fatally with negligent homocide?

[bloodtrailer28]

We gonna charge all owners of a small business that has an employee screw up fatally with negligent homocide?

You'd think if your gona hire someone to handle weapons firearms ect you'd think you'd hire someone that is competent for the job. I'm sure theres been plenty of employers that have been held responsible for their employees actions. In fact I know there is because I'v3 been held responsible for my employees actions....accident or not.

Daddy hires a guide for his ranch the guide doesn't know a 150 from a 170 and wrong deer gets shot. Is it pops fault for hiring a guide who doesn't know his head from his *** or guides fault for being an idiot? Blame is placed on both imo.

[tvc184]

You'd think if your gona hire someone to handle weapons firearms ect you'd think you'd hire someone that is competent for the job. I'm sure theres been plenty of employers that have been held responsible for their employees actions. In fact I know there is because I'v3 been held responsible for my employees actions....accident or not.

Held responsible in criminal court or civil court?

A business owner or manager can certainly be held responsible for damages. In fact that is where deep pockets comes from.

I thought that I read that Baldwin has already paid for responsibility but maybe that was just another rumor.

So when you were held responsible for your employees’ actions, did the police come and arrest you?