I ran 65 lb braid on a 4/0 wide, 6/0 wide and 9/0 wide
The 4/0 and 6/0 with stock drags - 21 lbs - with fade after sustained runs. You use the thumbs for additional pressure - and you know when you need to apply that - that last 100 yards before you get spooled - if it wants to go there - you can't stop them.
The 9/0 carbon fiber drag kit upgrade from Alan Tani - still barely pushed 30lbs sustained drag - so the risk of out pressuring the line from the reel's drag - ain't gonna happen.
You want YARDS AND YARDS of line.
The reason why most went to AVET 80 wides on PINS = KAYAKS
You run out 400 - 500 yard sets - slightly angled up into the prevailing current, so weed that does find the line, works it way back to you to clear as well as a bit of edge on the current's drag against the line.
Spotting 500 yards - and then tying into an 8ft bull shark - roughly 200 lbs or so - he will run that 80 out if he opts to swing down current and make a go
The amount of line left on the spool, coupled with the lock down maximum fighting pressure of the reel - 21 lbs or 30 lbs - is not gonna cut it. A 2 speed 80 wide - can push 120 lbs of drag so that extra 75% DRAG PRESSURE - gives folks that run these setups a chance on big fish - and even then - 80 wides get spooled on PINS regularly.
I size my setup based on the shark species and sets out in yards - keeping the reels as packed with line that is half over the total of the reels drag.
65lb PowerPro braid fit the star drag reels - even the Alan Tani drag kit modified 9/0
A standard 9/0 will work an 8ft shark
But I've flown over PINS in USCG HH-65 Helicopters thru the 1990s - Tigers up to 14ft swam the third bar at sunrise looking for stingrays - shark pancakes. The moment they felt and spotted us hovering overhead - adios! Amazing to watch these big animals blaze it out into the deep blue - us on them till they found depth and gone.
My son Austin had a blast with catch and release blacktips - fishing the 2nd and 3rd guts on short sets. You hook a blacktip in shallow water, they will jump, and we had many jump - They leap over the 3rd sandbar - trying to clear that shallow zone by simply flying. Not pretty jumpers - grayhound a bit and sideways a bit at times but they pull it off.
This one was a jumper - 4/0 wide 65lb PP Braid - custom 6ft sevalon leader with a 100lb mono top shot of 100 yards. The old trusty Fenwick shark rod - has put a lot on the sand during my Son's informative years.
It's a good young beginner sharker setup, and he can wade out and side arm casts with a decent long rod (Roy has some nice jawbreakers for just this), make his set, and fish hard.
Add yak - run that 4/0 wide on the back side of 4th bar then it's 6/0 time to 5 and 6 then it's 9/0 and it aint going out more than 250 yards.
To lay over a 1/4 mile out - 80 WIDE
Even a 50 wide - will get spooled - drag hits 55 lbs maybe 60 lbs with 2 speed setups
The 4/0 and 6/0 with stock drags - 21 lbs - with fade after sustained runs. You use the thumbs for additional pressure - and you know when you need to apply that - that last 100 yards before you get spooled - if it wants to go there - you can't stop them.
The 9/0 carbon fiber drag kit upgrade from Alan Tani - still barely pushed 30lbs sustained drag - so the risk of out pressuring the line from the reel's drag - ain't gonna happen.
You want YARDS AND YARDS of line.
The reason why most went to AVET 80 wides on PINS = KAYAKS
You run out 400 - 500 yard sets - slightly angled up into the prevailing current, so weed that does find the line, works it way back to you to clear as well as a bit of edge on the current's drag against the line.
Spotting 500 yards - and then tying into an 8ft bull shark - roughly 200 lbs or so - he will run that 80 out if he opts to swing down current and make a go
The amount of line left on the spool, coupled with the lock down maximum fighting pressure of the reel - 21 lbs or 30 lbs - is not gonna cut it. A 2 speed 80 wide - can push 120 lbs of drag so that extra 75% DRAG PRESSURE - gives folks that run these setups a chance on big fish - and even then - 80 wides get spooled on PINS regularly.
I size my setup based on the shark species and sets out in yards - keeping the reels as packed with line that is half over the total of the reels drag.
65lb PowerPro braid fit the star drag reels - even the Alan Tani drag kit modified 9/0
A standard 9/0 will work an 8ft shark
But I've flown over PINS in USCG HH-65 Helicopters thru the 1990s - Tigers up to 14ft swam the third bar at sunrise looking for stingrays - shark pancakes. The moment they felt and spotted us hovering overhead - adios! Amazing to watch these big animals blaze it out into the deep blue - us on them till they found depth and gone.
My son Austin had a blast with catch and release blacktips - fishing the 2nd and 3rd guts on short sets. You hook a blacktip in shallow water, they will jump, and we had many jump - They leap over the 3rd sandbar - trying to clear that shallow zone by simply flying. Not pretty jumpers - grayhound a bit and sideways a bit at times but they pull it off.
This one was a jumper - 4/0 wide 65lb PP Braid - custom 6ft sevalon leader with a 100lb mono top shot of 100 yards. The old trusty Fenwick shark rod - has put a lot on the sand during my Son's informative years.
It's a good young beginner sharker setup, and he can wade out and side arm casts with a decent long rod (Roy has some nice jawbreakers for just this), make his set, and fish hard.
Add yak - run that 4/0 wide on the back side of 4th bar then it's 6/0 time to 5 and 6 then it's 9/0 and it aint going out more than 250 yards.
To lay over a 1/4 mile out - 80 WIDE
Even a 50 wide - will get spooled - drag hits 55 lbs maybe 60 lbs with 2 speed setups
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