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    #46
    Swaro does not pay me anything. A few years ago, I was rifle hunting elk in N.M. I had my 10 X 42 Bushnells which had always done the trick for me. The guy I was hunting with was from Maine and he had Swaro 10 x 42 EL'S with rangefinder. He was watching elk on the next mountain over and telling me how many points they had. With my Bushnells, I was lucky to see the elk. When I got home, I sold both my kid's cars and bought some Swaros. It only hurts when you buy them.

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      #47
      Originally posted by M16 View Post
      I just buy Swarovskis. No need to test anything.
      This.. I was rifle hunting with my dad over the weekend, and I could tell how many points a deer had before he could even see the feeder through his. It was an incredible difference, and he's now mad at me for costing him $2500.

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        #48
        Swaros, but if you are buying on a budget, look at the bird watcher sites. Those dudes are looking through their glass a ton and have great reviews.

        My boss let me borrow his Swaro's for an elk hunt. They beat the pants off my Nikon Monarchs for sure, but were also considerably better than my buddies Leica Geovids, IMO.
        Last edited by El General; 01-06-2020, 03:26 PM.

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          #49
          Originally posted by SmTx View Post
          Are you aging deer and looking at antler characteristics with thermals? Can you tell a nubbin from a doe? I've only used thermals once at night so I'm curious. I've seen you argue in favor of the thermals a few times now.
          No you are not, in fact you will be wondering how far the animal is, how it moves, etc. to determine the species!

          Arguing that a thermal is better for deer hunting than hi quality bino's is silly. Maybe if you are hunting where you rarely see deer this could be a strategy, but if you are considering 2500 dollar binos you are trying to make sure you are not going to see ground shrinkage, or nuts on a doe..

          Sure, sitting in the stand with a thermal is fun. I sold my XP-50 and have been in the market again for a while but with good binos I never used my thermal to scan during legal shooting hours because it is not needed.

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            #50
            Originally posted by -HIC- View Post
            No you are not, in fact you will be wondering how far the animal is, how it moves, etc. to determine the species!

            Arguing that a thermal is better for deer hunting than hi quality bino's is silly. Maybe if you are hunting where you rarely see deer this could be a strategy, but if you are considering 2500 dollar binos you are trying to make sure you are not going to see ground shrinkage, or nuts on a doe..

            Sure, sitting in the stand with a thermal is fun. I sold my XP-50 and have been in the market again for a while but with good binos I never used my thermal to scan during legal shooting hours because it is not needed.
            I respectfully disagree with your opinion.

            I will see the deer before you will almost always.

            Also. In brush hunting on public ground, knowing something is there is more important than knowing what it is. What difference does it make that you can tell me what color flea that deer has if you never see the deer because they blend in so well.

            Where I hunt, finding the deer first, then identifying is more important. But that's my strategy. It's my opinion also.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Blitz View Post
              I respectfully disagree with your opinion.

              I will see the deer before you will almost always.

              Also. In brush hunting on public ground, knowing something is there is more important than knowing what it is. What difference does it make that you can tell me what color flea that deer has if you never see the deer because they blend in so well.

              Where I hunt, finding the deer first, then identifying is more important. But that's my strategy. It's my opinion also.
              I agree you will see something, and that does help to key in on that area. The issue I try to avoid is a bright light in my eyes early in the morning and at dusk. I do not look at my phone or would not scan with my thermal. After your eyes adjust to the light it is tougher to use even the best binos. Where I hunt I know there are deer out when I am in my stand, I am trying to identify specific characteristics. Thermal does not help me in that regard.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Blitz View Post
                I respectfully disagree with your opinion.

                I will see the deer before you will almost always.

                Also. In brush hunting on public ground, knowing something is there is more important than knowing what it is. What difference does it make that you can tell me what color flea that deer has if you never see the deer because they blend in so well.

                Where I hunt, finding the deer first, then identifying is more important. But that's my strategy. It's my opinion also.
                Also, just to be clear; I am not the best hunter on this board even in my head! My way obviously lacks something. LOL!

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Blitz View Post
                  I respectfully disagree with your opinion.



                  I will see the deer before you will almost always.



                  Also. In brush hunting on public ground, knowing something is there is more important than knowing what it is. What difference does it make that you can tell me what color flea that deer has if you never see the deer because they blend in so well.



                  Where I hunt, finding the deer first, then identifying is more important. But that's my strategy. It's my opinion also.


                  Let’s be real honest here. You can bowhunt in Texas for whitetail deer with about the ****tiest set of binos made. Hell half the time i just take my rangefinder. They aren’t that important for whitetail in Texas. I could see them coming in handy for rifle hunting but can a thermal set even pick out a deer past 150 yards or so?

                  You need a good set of binos for out west glassing 1500 yards or trying to pick a mule deer tine out of a pile of brush on the other side of the mountain. And there is no way someone is packing in a set of thermals out west lol.


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