I hope you will do a test with a heavier arrow. My 82 airborne is super fast with a light arrow. I shoot 450 grain and would be interested in how fast the monster shoots. My 82 shoots 282, at 27.5 inch draw and 450 grains. I love kinetic energy.
I hope you will do a test with a heavier arrow. My 82 airborne is super fast with a light arrow. I shoot 450 grain and would be interested in how fast the monster shoots. My 82 shoots 282, at 27.5 inch draw and 450 grains. I love kinetic energy.
I don't think the xforce will be comparable to the Mathews in regard to speed. I really wanted an xforce but I have calculated that I will only gain 7-8fps over my DXT. I'm thinking the Monster might get up to around 20-25fps faster which is significant.
Its a shame too cause I really like the Dream Season bow..
You couldn't be more wrong about the X-force.....dxt ibo is 322,pse xforce 7 is 340,pse x-force 6 is 350...it smokes the dxt....x-force 6 smokes it by 28 fps ...the x-force will shoot 350 fps at 70# and the dxt wont even get close.........dxt advertised speed may be fairly close but the actual chromo speed is far less than advertised like most Mathews bows until know.......I know because I own and have shot Mathews bows for the past 10 years now. I have the 7" brace height X-force and with 63# 29" draw and a 330 gr. arrow it is 324 fps all day........the 6" brace height x-force would be around 334 with the same setup. If you shoot the same specs between the X-force 6 and the Monster you will get similar speeds I'm sure.
IMO the Monster will be a good bow and every bit as fast as the PSE x-force but I bet the PSE Omen will blow its doors off here soon!
I like both bow companies and they will both stand behind their equipment!
Archery Country is one of 4 shops in north america to have one right now.
I put maybe 100 arrows through it on Sat. and all I can say is, when is mine coming?
As far as the 6" BH, I was stacking arrows without any problem. I had a customer, that has a 60#'er on order & he was stacking them as well. He also changed his order to a 70#'er. He said that the draw cycle was smooth enough for him to shoot more poundage. Now this is a 65 year old man!
I think the only problem that I'll have with this bow is getting them in fast enough.
KingsX, the 6" BH on the Monster is kicking it down range @ 350 fps. This is a fact, just refer to EPACK's post.
at 29" draw
70.3 lbs
349.8 gr acc arrow
3 shots were as follows
1# 341fps
2#341fps
3#344fps
this was with a g5 peep sight, string loop, and the bow measured exactly 29 1/8"
As far as the XLR8, if I know Matt McPherson, he's not done juicing that one up yet, so look for a few changes before we see that bow.
Don't get me wrong, PSE makes great equipment. And some people might prefer it over Mathews, Hoyt or BT.
As far as Mathews not doing there IBO speeds, You can't be any more wrong. I shoot, maybe, over 2 to 3 hundred Mathews a year & everyone that I've shot through the crono is doing it's IBO or if they are not they are when we are done with them.
I guess all my Mathew bows I've owned were out of tune then...lol....typically 6-8 fps under ibo in my experiences with Mathews.
I do agree the Monster will shoot with the X-force 6 in speed......and the xlr8 will compete with Pse Omen I'm sure........but I will disagree with most past Mathews bowS coming just under ibo projected speeds. Almost 3/4 of the people on Archery Talk will agree to that as well! I love my Mathew bows but this speed game is getting interesting now......surprisingly most speed bows now are smooth shooting and draw smoothly as well.......great time to be an archer that's for sure!
3/4 of the people on Archery Talk, a Martin web site sponcered by Bowtech, live in their parents basement and work part time in the shoe dept. at there local sporting goods store.
Look I see over 800 Mathews leave our shop a year & thats not to mention all the bow we work on. Your going to beleive what you want to beleive, I'm just telling what I've seen and done.
Is it just me or does the Monster look almost identical to a PSE x-force?
Funny thing is the x-force has been out for awhile now. If you cant beat em join em right!
KingsX, the 6" BH on the Monster is kicking it down range @ 350 fps. This is a fact, just refer to EPACK's post.
at 29" draw
70.3 lbs
349.8 gr acc arrow
3 shots were as follows
1# 341fps
2#341fps
3#344fps
this was with a g5 peep sight, string loop, and the bow measured exactly 29 1/8"
As far as the XLR8, if I know Matt McPherson, he's not done juicing that one up yet, so look for a few changes before we see that bow.
Don't get me wrong, PSE makes great equipment. And some people might prefer it over Mathews, Hoyt or BT.
As far as Mathews not doing there IBO speeds, You can't be any more wrong. I shoot, maybe, over 2 to 3 hundred Mathews a year & everyone that I've shot through the crono is doing it's IBO or if they are not they are when we are done with them.
I've tested a ton of Mathews bows over the years, and they don't leave my shop without being in spec, and I've never seen one reach advertised speed.
I like Mathews bows,(some of them), but that last sentence is not true.
If a bow is in spec, and is 8 fps slow, the only way to get that 8 fps is increase poundage or lighten the arrow or increase the DL by advancing the cam which in turn increases poundage.
Besides, most Mathews bows come into my shop 3/8-1/2 inch long on DL, and when you twist the string and cable enough to get DL right, you've pre-loaded the bow more, increasing poundage.
You can't make any adjustment to a bow without it affecting some other aspect of the bow.
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