Electric trucks are coming

[flywise]

My brother ordered a Tesla truck this morning.

If you are under 50 you will see electric cars start to take over the market. Not hybrids full electric. Supercharging stations are already popping up all over the place. In 10 years if not 5 you will see electric 18 wheelers driving on autopilot down the road(there probably will still be person in it because humans are afraid of computers)

You want to fly with out a human?

[Mike D]

You want to fly with out a human?

You pretty much already do. Yeah they are sitting there but most of it is autonomous.


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[Jspradley]

You pretty much already do. Yeah they are sitting there but most of it is autonomous.

Yep.

Human error is FAR more common than mechanical errors.

Human psychology is weird, it will accept all sort of dangers from human error without pause but will simultaneous demand 100000% safety from any sort of new developments.

It's gonna be freakin' sweet taking a nap while blazing down the highway at 200MPH!

[flywise]

You pretty much already do. Yeah they are sitting there but most of it is autonomous.


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Yep and exactly why the 737 max killed 400.
Too much automation. And Tesla drivers seem to die a few a year while sleeping behind the wheel

[Jspradley]

From my inside tech nerd source-

Corporate cheapness caused the 737 problem.

For some stupid reason the backup pitch sensor was offered as an option instead of standard, the airlines didn't buy it, something happened to the only sensor and ruh roh.. sum ting wong... splat!

Either way, pilot error causes over 75% of plane crashes, but we overlook that because humans are horrible at judging risks.

40k people die on the roads every year, the vast majority are due to driver error, no one cares but sweet jesus we will make a huge deal out of a problem with an automated system.

Silicon and metal computers outperform the meat computers in our heads in most ways , the day is rapidly approached where they will outperform us in every conceivable way.

[Mike D]

Yep and exactly why the 737 max killed 400.
Too much automation. And Tesla drivers seem to die a few a year while sleeping behind the wheel

Never said it was perfect. But it will get there.

There are way more planes than just the 737 max that fly autonomously. Most of them take off and land by computer, not human.

Again the Tesla incidents are a small portion of the overall and like always drama sells.


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[160class]

And someone smart enough is going to figure out how to make a lot money off making the range irrelevant.

Smaller, more efficient, standardized batteries that can be swapped out on the fly like propane tanks are one way. No reasons that can't happen.

It's inevitable that one day fossil fuels will become so expensive that gas burners will be obsolete, luckily we have really smart folks who like money to think up new solutions.

Virtue signalling goes both ways, the liberal smell-my-own fart types and the right wingers who will to to any extent to avoid anything that looks like librul hippie crap to them. It's pretty sad really how many people truly WANT these new techs and the American businesses behind them to fail.

My question is, how much will that cost to swap out? Cause that defeats the whole purpose of being more efficient, cause they won’t be cheap and to top it off your electricity costs at home will go up. And then how much are they gonna tax that? Cause you know the government isn’t going to lose their revenue from what they make on taxing fuel.

And why is this considered a truck? The pictures I have seen look more like an SUV than a truck.

I have no problem with them, I just don’t see them being huge and taking over, you’ll see them in the larger metro areas but not the smaller towns throughout and it will take a lot of infrastructure to get it done. For me it will never be a viable option, I drive way too much and need a lot more than a 500 mile range and I need it in remote areas.

[flywise]

Never said it was perfect. But it will get there.

There are way more planes than just the 737 max that fly autonomously. Most of them take off and land by computer, not human.

Again the Tesla incidents are a small portion of the overall and like always drama sells.


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Every take off and landing is done by human...however the computer does get it down to minimums. Very likely could take off and land on their own but we will never have passenger planes flying with out pilots. Need someone to blame when the computer crashes the plane.
Like I said I appreciate all this new tech and admire most of the folks creating it but electric vehicles taking over the personal vehicle market will not happen in the next 50. They may become a larger percentage than they are now but unless we go full blown socialist the only thing replacing that f250 in the soccer moms driveway is going to be a newer f250

[Jspradley]

Who knows how much it could cost, it could very well turn out to not even be a viable idea but I suspect someone could make it work with sufficiently advanced batteries.

Either way someone has to figure it out, fossil fuels will run out eventually, that's not even disputed by anyone not wearing a foil hat

[flywise]

Who knows how much it could cost, it could very well turn out to not even be a viable idea but I suspect someone could make it work with sufficiently advanced batteries.

Either way someone has to figure it out, fossil fuels will run out eventually, that's not even disputed by anyone not wearing a foil hat

Fossile fuels still have at least a couple hundred years as the primary source for energy....it ain't running out anytime soon. And the tinfoil is reserved for those who think is all gone anytime in the next many generations

[160class]

Who knows how much it could cost, it could very well turn out to not even be a viable idea but I suspect someone could make it work with sufficiently advanced batteries.

Either way someone has to figure it out, fossil fuels will run out eventually, that's not even disputed by anyone not wearing a foil hat

I don’t doubt someone can make it viable as far as the batteries go, I just don’t think they’ll be able to make it affordable or cost effective to make it cheaper than the cost and convenience of gas.

[Black Ice]

Teslas are stupid fast..and its a whole new kind of fast...
ludicrous mode is very aptly named.

I’d buy a BMW M5 comp before any Tesla.


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[kyle1974]

Who knows how much it could cost, it could very well turn out to not even be a viable idea but I suspect someone could make it work with sufficiently advanced batteries.



Either way someone has to figure it out, fossil fuels will run out eventually, that's not even disputed by anyone not wearing a foil hat

It’s actually disputed quite often. We’ll never run out. People have been preaching peak oil theories since the 1950s. Here we are in 2019 in a full blow glut

[Jspradley]

Fossile fuels still have at least a couple hundred years as the primary source for energy....it ain't running out anytime soon. And the tinfoil is reserved for those who think is all gone anytime in the next many generations

BP estimates about 50 years for oil at current use levels, which will likely decline as costs increase, new tech is developed to increase efficiency and new sources are found but i highly doubt oil reserves will last another 100 years.

Bright side is new tech will likely make fossil fuels obsolete for the most part well before then, if of course artificial general intelligence doesnt wipe us all out first lol

[Drycreek3189]

That truck is the most butt ugly vehicle I’ve ever seen. Gonna have to do better than that for me to buy one......and the price would have to be in line with a gasser or this ole boy ain’t gonna bite. Looks like it came from a Mad Max Goes Electric movie.....