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    #61
    Originally posted by Ironman View Post
    Resources used to preserve existing 2A rights? Hate to tell you, Constitutional Carry is THE ESSENCE of the 2A. Yeah, somebody is out to lunch alright.


    Ding Ding, this guy wins the prize. Look this whole CC debate really centers around one thing, which is unrestricted 2A rights. This whole LTC thing has, and will continue to be; a money grab and a bump all be it small to being able to legally carry for folks. Paying to Play for your Bill of Rights is just plain silly not to mention down right ridiculous.


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      #62
      Nation wide, to include D.C.



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        #63
        Originally posted by Clay C View Post
        Things I learn on TBH. You shouldn’t support things that give more freedom, because we should be supporting things that give more freedom. Genius.


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        Talk about genius ^^^^^^^^^^^^^that's good stuff right there.
        I tried to make a constitutional carry case years ago on here. I dont have a permit to carry and that's because I dont think I should need permission to do something I was born with the right to do in this country. Back them there were a lot of folks that argued everyone should be required to take a class. At least now it seems more folks are of the mindset there should be no requirement for a class. Maybe a little progress has been made.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Man View Post
          I don't think I am for it
          Need the government to tell ya its ok first?

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            #65
            I’m for it. As for the “weeding out the idiots” argument I can promise you it doesn’t do that. There was a guy in my class that should have never passed and has no business carrying a gun but did.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Thumper View Post
              I have a CHL, can't see an up side of this for me.

              Down side, every gang banger that's never been convicted of a felony would be able to legally carry a concealed weapon. Car load of ms-13's finest gets out at the dance and the one non-felon in the car is carrying eight concealed guns.

              Hey, ya'll said everyone has the right to protect themselves, you never know when the police will decide to serve arrest warrants, or a rival gang wants to get even, right?
              ***News Flash**** ---Criminals don't follow laws. They are already carrying anyway.
              But you did bring up another good argument FOR constitutional carry.

              Why should I pay a tax to the state to protect myself from a car load of ms-13 members?

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                #67
                Originally posted by flywise View Post
                Talk about genius ^^^^^^^^^^^^^that's good stuff right there.
                I tried to make a constitutional carry case years ago on here. I dont have a permit to carry and that's because I dont think I should need permission to do something I was born with the right to do in this country. Back them there were a lot of folks that argued everyone should be required to take a class. At least now it seems more folks are of the mindset there should be no requirement for a class. Maybe a little progress has been made.
                Meh I don't know about progress. The sad fact as another poster pointed out is Texas isn't the bastion of freedom, gun loving state we claim to be and it is our own fault. Some guy earlier was posting about yuppies and rednecks. What's funny is the yuppy probably believes in his absolute right to carry while the redneck is too scared of a gun until Sugar Daddy Govt. tells him he's a big boy and can handle it now.

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                  #68
                  I like the LTC only because I like to know that people carrying have had some sort of training..

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                    #69
                    I'm for it. And my like-minded law enforcement friends are for it.

                    We have all grown way to **** comfortable with the govt. "doing us a favor" and letting us do something that we should be able to do. As we slide towards the likes of Great Britain and other "free" nations, each generation is more and more fine with giving up a chunk of their freedom to those that don't have our best interests at heart.

                    Fix my roads. Keep the lights on. Keep the wolf away from the door. Concentrate on letting me and mine pursue happiness and stay the &^%Y out of my life.

                    Probably sounds funny coming from a career govt. employee...but I've always done my best to protect rights, not trample on them.

                    Off the soapbox. Back to working for the man.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ironman View Post
                      Resources used to preserve existing 2A rights? Hate to tell you, Constitutional Carry is THE ESSENCE of the 2A. Yeah, somebody is out to lunch alright.
                      So if all semi-auto weapons are classified as assault weapons and banned so the "keep" part of 2A is compromised, you're good with it if you can carry a double action revolver on your hip without a license?
                      For those that don't understand that effort spent on one thing means effort not available for something else, since I can carry open or concealed in this state right now, my priority is on protecting what is actually under threat... the right to keep certain arms as defined by statute.
                      It really is unfortunate that discussion, even on a forum of relatively like-minded folk like TBH, can't be had without devolving into ridiculous accusations and name calling-- adolescent stuff.
                      No wonder reasonable people in the middle have trouble getting on board. SMH
                      Last edited by meltingfeather; 11-27-2018, 08:29 AM.

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                        #71
                        This is just my opinion , I think before you can get an Ltc their needs to be more class time and hands on practice , and also people need to know the laws that cover you as an Ltc in case you have to use your carry weapon. We have a pretty good gun shop here in beeville the owners are super nice, the only downfall they run ltc but I think they need to be trained more to deal with first time shooters, A buddy of mine went out with his wife for their qual day , and he said he was flagged so many times by first time shooters and the owners still passed the shooters! Even myself as a skilled shooter I am always practicing with my carry weapon every chance I get at my place just so you know your weapon and how to use it.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by meltingfeather View Post
                          So if all semi-auto weapons are classified as assault weapons and banned so the "keep" part of 2A is compromised, you're good with it if you can carry a double action revolver on your hip?
                          For those that don't understand that effort spent on one thing means effort not available for something else, since I can carry open or concealed in this state right now, my priority is on protecting what is actually under threat... the right to keep certain arms as defined by statute.
                          I have no idea how we escaped a full on ban when open carry was passed. That was a nail biter.

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                            #73
                            Not everyone that has an ltc is trained remember that, Their are people that should not be carrying, that's the part that worries me!

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Clay C View Post
                              I have no idea how we escaped a full on ban when open carry was passed. That was a nail biter.
                              Ah OK, so you think semi-autos and "assault weapons" are completely safe and not under threat of unconstitutional limitations like other states have already passed? Got it. We'll disagree on that.
                              It blows my mind that 2A supporters will willingly draw lines in the sand and splinter the ranks of support they do have.
                              Don't miss the forest for the trees, bud.

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                                #75
                                You talk about those CHL/LTC instructors being goof balls. Mine dropped a loaded pistol on the floor of the class room while in the middle of "instruction".


                                The amount of fire arm training in that class is to small to consider anyone trained. It's really non-existent. Those classes are there to primarily teach you the CHL/LTC laws. Not train fire arm handling and proficiency.

                                It's a joke.

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