For anybody management-minded, it always better to remove does early in the season. Every doe walking around is eating 5-7 pounds of food per day, every day. Most properties have too many deer to begin with so the longer you keep the does around, the greater the impact to the habitat. Too many people wait til the end of the season, and then don't end up shooting the number of does they need to. Those of you still seeing spotted fawns are doing so because of late breeding activity, which is largely due to high sex ratios nd too many does. Kill a bunch of does to improve the sex ratio and you'll stop seeing them. Also, the notion that the presence of does will help increase buck visibility is misguided. The more does you have the less the buck activity and resulting visibility. Basically, with a skewed sex ratio, bucks don't have to look as hard for does as when the sex ratio is tight and the bucks have limited opportunities to breed. Since the season is essentially open earlier this year, there will be some fawns that can't afford to lose the doe (again, mostly a function of a poor sex ratio), but, but fawns greater than 6 weeks are fully functional ruminants and can get along fine without mama. If the fawns have lost spots or have faded spots, the doe is eligible for harvest. Plus if you really have a lot of does to kill, many times you can get the fawn as well as the doe. Just make sure he doesn't have bumps on his head. Lots of reasons to kill does, the earlier the better.
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Before or after it's the same really.
Originally posted by Pushbutton2 View PostHere's how it was explained to me.
Does before = Not pregnant you're taking 1 deer from the herd
Does after = Most likely pregnant you're taking 2-3 deer from the herd
1 is less than 3
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Originally posted by Quackerbox View PostAs soon as i see one without fawns, I'm shankin
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The more does there are before the rut, the less the bucks have to work to get some. The less does there are, the harder the bucks actually search for them. More searching = more traveling = more visibility.
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Originally posted by Pushbutton2 View PostHere's how it was explained to me.
Does before = Not pregnant you're taking 1 deer from the herd
Does after = Most likely pregnant you're taking 2-3 deer from the herd
1 is less than 3
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Originally posted by Pushbutton2 View PostHere's how it was explained to me.
Does before = Not pregnant you're taking 1 deer from the herd
Does after = Most likely pregnant you're taking 2-3 deer from the herd
1 is less than 3
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Originally posted by Deerguy View PostFor anybody management-minded, it always better to remove does early in the season. Every doe walking around is eating 5-7 pounds of food per day, every day. Most properties have too many deer to begin with so the longer you keep the does around, the greater the impact to the habitat. Too many people wait til the end of the season, and then don't end up shooting the number of does they need to. Those of you still seeing spotted fawns are doing so because of late breeding activity, which is largely due to high sex ratios nd too many does. Kill a bunch of does to improve the sex ratio and you'll stop seeing them. Also, the notion that the presence of does will help increase buck visibility is misguided. The more does you have the less the buck activity and resulting visibility. Basically, with a skewed sex ratio, bucks don't have to look as hard for does as when the sex ratio is tight and the bucks have limited opportunities to breed. Since the season is essentially open earlier this year, there will be some fawns that can't afford to lose the doe (again, mostly a function of a poor sex ratio), but, but fawns greater than 6 weeks are fully functional ruminants and can get along fine without mama. If the fawns have lost spots or have faded spots, the doe is eligible for harvest. Plus if you really have a lot of does to kill, many times you can get the fawn as well as the doe. Just make sure he doesn't have bumps on his head. Lots of reasons to kill does, the earlier the better.
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Early. I like having meat in the freezer, it helps me hold out for a nicer buck because I know I already have meat, early season button bucks are smaller still and easier to distinguish from does (bb's always get a pass from me), and lastly I feel it helps intensify competition with bucks having less does pre-rut.
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