26" on the smaller one and 30" on the larger one - both nice bucks but I agree with you that neither are "shooters". I am a caudle tine and mass fan, so give me a 30" buck with Caudles that come close to ending where the beams do and plenty of mass over a 36" buck with short caudles and thin beams any day of the week.
One facing the camera is a shooter from what I can see. I think he is 30"+. General rule of thumb, when there head is down feeding and the antlers are even with their back, that is 30".
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