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    Originally posted by Bayouboy View Post
    You will see. Nothing special in the Big 12 except TCU and Oklahoma to worry about.
    What about Maryland?

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      Originally posted by Burntorange Bowhunter View Post
      I tend to agree and OU doesn't scare me with the midget Aggy reject either.

      The time is now. WIN.
      I'll agree with Bob. Kyler shouldn't scare anybody.

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        If they lose to the Terps again I will be on suicide watch. Lol.

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          Originally posted by Pin Oak DXT View Post
          I'll agree with Bob. Kyler shouldn't scare anybody.
          I can't figure out how the big plan at OU is to have Kyler pick up this year where Mayfield left off last year.

          Unless he was just incredibly under-coached (possible with the last regime) at TAMU I just don't see the potential.

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            In all honesty, how many years do the Texas folks think it should take to turn this thing around?

            For reference, GP was terrible his first year and righted the ship. He was then terrible his first two years in Big 12 and righted the ship his third year.

            I would think in Herman's third year he could/should make some noise in the conference and postseason discussions...


            I understand there are a ton of differences in the two situations, but it's mind boggling that it could be in this state with the amount of resources, etc.
            Last edited by eradicator; 07-23-2018, 04:51 PM.

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              Originally posted by Burntorange Bowhunter View Post
              If they lose to the Terps again I will be on suicide watch. Lol.

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              And a $100 poorer.


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                Mack took a steo back in year two after losing a Heisman winner. Stoops came out of nowhere to win it all in year two with another coaches players. Hmmm, that coach was black too. Lol.

                I hope Herman has a successful 20 year career. It doesn't have to turn around fast but it could.

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                  Originally posted by eradicator View Post
                  In all honesty, how many years do the Texas folks think it should take to turn this thing around?
                  When Texas won the '05 title it was with these guys on the roster...
                  1. 2006 1 3 3 Titans Vince Young QB
                  2. 2006 1 7 7 Raiders Michael Huff S
                  3. 2006 2 16 48 Vikings Cedric Griffin CB
                  4. 2006 3 22 86 Patriots David Thomas TE
                  5. 2006 5 8 141 Lions Jonathan Scott OT
                  6. 2006 7 18 226 Dolphins Rodrique Wright DE
                  7. 2007 1 19 19 Titans Michael Griffin S
                  8. 2007 1 20 20 Giants Aaron Ross CB
                  9. 2007 2 7 39 Falcons Justin Blalock OT
                  10. 2007 2 24 56 Broncos Tim Crowder DE
                  11. 2007 4 3 102 Vikings Brian Robison DE
                  12. 2007 5 10 147 49ers Tarell Brown CB
                  13. 2007 6 9 183 Texans Kasey Studdard G
                  14. 2008 2 22 53 Steelers Limas Sweed WR
                  15. 2008 3 10 73 Chiefs Jamaal Charles RB
                  16. 2008 3 28 91 Packers Jermichael Finley TE
                  17. 2008 4 31 130 Steelers Tony Hills OT
                  18. 2008 5 16 151 Texans Frank Okam DT
                  19. 2009 1 13 13 Redskins Brian Orakpo LB
                  20. 2009 3 17 81 Buccaneers Roy Miller DT
                  21. 2009 4 5 105 Bears Henry Melton DT
                  22. 2009 7 2 211 Rams Chris Ogbonnaya RB


                  To truly turn it around, they have to recruit AND develop. Are they doing that now? I think the QBs will tell the story but odds are they are no where near the level required to make noise outside of the conference. I think most of the predictions I have seen are about right. Competitive, but with work to do.

                  If you go back and re-watch the Texas vs USC title game, the talent on the field is staggering.

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                    tOSU just fired their WR coach


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                      Originally posted by Legdog View Post
                      When Texas won the '05 title it was with these guys on the roster...
                      1. 2006 1 3 3 Titans Vince Young QB
                      2. 2006 1 7 7 Raiders Michael Huff S
                      3. 2006 2 16 48 Vikings Cedric Griffin CB
                      4. 2006 3 22 86 Patriots David Thomas TE
                      5. 2006 5 8 141 Lions Jonathan Scott OT
                      6. 2006 7 18 226 Dolphins Rodrique Wright DE
                      7. 2007 1 19 19 Titans Michael Griffin S
                      8. 2007 1 20 20 Giants Aaron Ross CB
                      9. 2007 2 7 39 Falcons Justin Blalock OT
                      10. 2007 2 24 56 Broncos Tim Crowder DE
                      11. 2007 4 3 102 Vikings Brian Robison DE
                      12. 2007 5 10 147 49ers Tarell Brown CB
                      13. 2007 6 9 183 Texans Kasey Studdard G
                      14. 2008 2 22 53 Steelers Limas Sweed WR
                      15. 2008 3 10 73 Chiefs Jamaal Charles RB
                      16. 2008 3 28 91 Packers Jermichael Finley TE
                      17. 2008 4 31 130 Steelers Tony Hills OT
                      18. 2008 5 16 151 Texans Frank Okam DT
                      19. 2009 1 13 13 Redskins Brian Orakpo LB
                      20. 2009 3 17 81 Buccaneers Roy Miller DT
                      21. 2009 4 5 105 Bears Henry Melton DT
                      22. 2009 7 2 211 Rams Chris Ogbonnaya RB


                      To truly turn it around, they have to recruit AND develop. Are they doing that now? I think the QBs will tell the story but odds are they are no where near the level required to make noise outside of the conference. I think most of the predictions I have seen are about right. Competitive, but with work to do.

                      If you go back and re-watch the Texas vs USC title game, the talent on the field is staggering.
                      Right, so how does it get this bad?

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                        Originally posted by Chad C View Post
                        tOSU just fired their WR coach


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                        It only took a dozen years, lol

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                          Originally posted by eradicator View Post
                          Right, so how does it get this bad?


                          It all started to snowball when Mack started replacing staff...


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                            Originally posted by Chad C View Post
                            It all started to snowball when Mack started replacing staff...


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                            I get it I guess. I never thought Mack was a great football coach(x's and o's) or evaluator. He was certainly the GOVERNOR and recruiter!!

                            I personally think it was the complacency with the AD that allowed it all. There are two reasons why TCU was able to be somewhat relevant(in the big 3 sports). Gary Patterson and CDC(I honestly think CDC has benefited more from GP than the other way around).

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                              Originally posted by eradicator View Post
                              I get it I guess. I never thought Mack was a great football coach(x's and o's) or evaluator. He was certainly the GOVERNOR and recruiter!!



                              I personally think it was the complacency with the AD that allowed it all. There are two reasons why TCU was able to be somewhat relevant(in the big 3 sports). Gary Patterson and CDC(I honestly think CDC has benefited more from GP than the other way around).


                              CDC knows how to play the role and get the money moving.

                              GP runs the show in Fort Worth.


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                                Originally posted by Chad C View Post
                                CDC knows how to play the role and get the money moving.

                                GP runs the show in Fort Worth.


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                                Yes on all accounts. I sensed some resentment on CDC's part watching media days last week.

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