RIP Stephen Hawking

[Encinal]

He's not and in the end that's all he has.

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Wasn’t an answer.

[Junkers88]

Pot meet kettle.

I am not a kettle.

[2B4Him]

Just because it doesn't serve a purpose to you, doesn't mean it does not serve a purpose to someone else.

Billy Graham was brought up earlier. You could say the exact same thing for him. What purpose did he serve to benefit humanity?

I think most Christians would agree that things of true value are of an eternal nature. Those are the things that matter to God.
I would 'speculate' that most negative comments about Mr. Hawkin's 'purpose' refer mostly to whether he was making any impact on eternity, versus purely an earthly impact.
On those scales, Mr. Graham spread the gospel message to millions of people during his lifetime. He didn't save any of them, but gave them the message of salvation and many, many of them will be in heaven because he fulfilled his 'purpose'.

[stickerpatch59]

Well I read through it... and it hurt. It hurt my heart for multiple reasons. The biggest hurt is that apparently a man that God created in His image has died not knowing God. That grieves the Spirit of God as it is His desire that none should perish. I say "apparently" because I personally did not know Mr. Hawking well, in fact hardly at all, and I cannot know his heart, but what I did know of him and what I have read about him both here and elsewhere is that there is no evidence that he knew Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. I am very sorry for that. Praying for him does no good now. As the Bible I study which I believe to be the inerrant Word of God tells me that once a man passes from this life into the next, there is no chance to know God and those who have not accepted His Son Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior will be eternally separated from God.

Another reason I am sad after having read through this thread is the fact that the message of the Gospel is supposed to be delivered in a loving manner that lifts people up. The Gospel is spread like the parable of the sower. In the Parable, the sower randomly cast his seed. Some fell on good ground and some did not... Some of the "sowers" in this thread appear to be not casting seed so that it would land on good, fertile ground, but rather cast it so that is has little chance to grow, cast toward bad ground in a forceful way... It's not to say that God's Word was not spoken, but it sure doesn't seem to have been very well spoken. Those "sowers" are worthy of receiving prayer, prayer for a softening of the heart, and an increase for compassion for their neighbors. With the gift of compassion, more neighbors are likely to be turned into brothers rather than foes.

Finally, it grieves me to read that members of this Green Screen family have a hard heart already and what has been posted to this point has no "softener" to it. For those who would cause a neighbor to stumble by hardening hearts further, would be like the one referred to in the Bible as being better that a large mill stone be tied around their neck and tossed into the depths of the ocean rather than what awaits them on that Day.

I rejoice in the reading of some of the posts that demonstrate Christ's love and His saving Word. I know His Word does not go out and return to Him empty without accomplishing His purpose. We cannot always know what His purpose may be, other than whatever it is, it will be meant for good. Sure is hard to see good in many posts in this thread and that is saddening and makes me wish I'd not opened it in the first place.

I'm sorry.

well said.

[Encinal]

I think most Christians would agree that things of true value are of an eternal nature. Those are the things that matter to God.
I would 'speculate' that most negative comments about Mr. Hawkin's 'purpose' refer mostly to whether he was making any impact on eternity, versus purely an earthly impact.
On those scales, Mr. Graham spread the gospel message to millions of people during his lifetime. He didn't save any of them, but gave them the message of salvation and many, many of them will be in heaven because he fulfilled his 'purpose'.

Yeah... both sides get to use that argument. You don’t have to believe in a cliff to fall off of one... either physical or spiritual.

You are just arguing with the same logic in another belief system.

[DRT]

Wasn’t an answer.

I believe chance favors the prepared.

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[miket]

Good grief. Yall are making me glad nobody will give a crap when I die...

[Landrover]

Whoa, wow....this is a bizarre thread!

I only have three things to say on this thread:

1) Stephen Hawking will long be remembered as an accomplished physicist who happened to also have a horrible disease that he would not give into
2) Some of these posts in this thread make me wonder how people can read the same book and come away with such varying lessons
3) It's obvious some on here did not take the time to learn the difference between theory and hypothesis

Great summary of the facts!

Huh?
Could you say all that again please? Possibly in a manner that makes any sense at all?

Bob Lee

LMAO!!! I thought it was me!!

This thread is typical science thread on TBH.

Lordy........yes it is!!! Really odd, maybe the world is actually flat? Or, polio is not cured? Or, NASA never achieved anything?

Didn't read everything but the attempt to dismiss a person's contribution based on faith is stupid.

That is how I read the judgmental "shade throwing" comments also.

If I have to spend eternity with some of the judgemental people on here that would have the audacity to call out a crippled old man in one breath and praise god with the next....I'll freakin pass. Screw that. There's a word for people like that....that word is hypocrite.

You think just because you carry a Bible under your arm on Sunday that you can judge people....I don't think so. In my opinion if anyone is going to hell it's people like that.

Cant argue those points. Even had a minister that preached on this about 5 years ago. He loss a few parishioners..........I think that was the plan, the church has flourished!

I didn't read where anyone bashed Christ. Hawking's beliefs were that there was no heaven. I also didn't read where anyone "defended" Hawking but his right to his opinion. An opinion that has eternal consequences. The point to be made is, if he's lost to hell it's sad. God doesn't need your help defending Him and I'm sure He doesn't appreciate the manner in which you do it. You're a cancer on the soul of Christianity and you'll ruin many more Christian relationships than you'll ever nurture. You're too stupid to realize it, but that don't make it less true.

Well heck, definitely saving me a lot of typing!

Realistically speaking, should a Christian believe in luck?

LOL...good observation.....that is funny!!! Weird how many are hanging out in the casino's these days.
My personal mantra on luck is when "opportunity & preparedness" meet!

[Vermin93]

Man what and ignorant post. People like him and Einstein are responsible for so much of the world around you, it's ridiculous. Your whole day, from the time you get up, until you go to bed, you run smack into Einstein, in almost everything you do. Modern medicines, to the machines used in the medical field, yeah, that's Einstein too.

And no one understands a black hole, if we did, it would change all of humanity

Put me in the Hawkin, Einstein category please. I'm all about understanding this incredible world from a realistic standpoint, and not believing in magic ethers and the stories.

x2. Thank you for the refreshing post.

[RiverRat1]

For those who don't think he contributed much, I'm pretty certain you wouldn't understand what he contributed, even if you read it. He helped those in the scientific community better understand how the universe works. And I'm pretty sure no one on this forum, nor 99.9% of the rest of the world can fathom the level of physics/math he worked with.

So you're saying everyone's too dumb to understand what he did for us so we should just agree he's a genius?

This is a vague statement with no answer to the question. Understanding a black hole or dark matter might be interesting but serves no purpose to humanity.
What if great minds like that committed themselves to solving disease and other human issues?
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I have the same question DRT And still no answer.

Here's the really sad part..
This man was well respected for his knowledge and he reached millions when he spoke.. He has spoke against The Bible and Christianity numerous times, mocking both, and yet was deemed a genius by his peers, the media and society..

But had he been a believer in the Holy Bible and had he spoke publicly about his beliefs, even though he was the SAME EXACT genius(mind), those same people/groups would have labeled him a religious radical.. and he would have gotten little to no respect from those groups..
That is where we are at in today's America.. But hey thats Biblical too.

It's sad when anyone dies. You are correct in your assessment though and that's sad also.

Man what and ignorant post. People like him and Einstein are responsible for so much of the world around you, it's ridiculous. Your whole day, from the time you get up, until you go to bed, you run smack into Einstein, in almost everything you do. Modern medicines, to the machines used in the medical field, yeah, that's Einstein too.
And no one understands a black hole, if we did, it would change all of humanity
Put me in the Hawkin, Einstein category please. I'm all about understanding this incredible world from a realistic standpoint, and not believing in magic ethers and the stories.

So we are ignorant for not knowing what Hawkin did for us (in general) but you still didn't/couldn't list one thing?

Good grief. Yall are making me glad nobody will give a crap when I die...

Well give us something good to fight about once you're gone. Then at least you can have a 5 or 6 page thread about you on TBH

[MBV77]

If he was that dang brilliant you’d think he would of worked on a cure for ALS.


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[Tracy moss]

There’s another famous atheist scientist that think we should eat human flesh that is grown in a lab. He thinks it wouldn’t be taboo if we did. and he is consider a very smart man also. his name is Richard Dawkins what is it with these last names that end with AWKINS. Lots of scientists are lost because they are scientists they can’t comprehend something as simple as faith.Because they are trained to touch,feel ,or see things and if they can’t it’s not in there minds to believe in it. Unless it’s a black hole billions of miles away or a whole universe made from a bang . In which there was nothing there to make a bang

[EarleyBird]

he was one of the most brilliant physicists to ever live. He was confined to a wheelchair for most of his adult life due to ALS, and still managed to be very successful in his field.

How so? I've known of his existence for years because he's celebrated in the media, but what are his accomplishments? I've always wondered what he's such a genius at because the media just seems to celebrate the fact that he's crippled, without stating what is so genius about him. It's always made me a little uncomfortable, the way he's paraded around by the media.

[Encinal]

If he was that dang brilliant you’d think he would of worked on a cure for ALS.


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I wish Eddie Van Halen would have played the Jazz Flute.

[MBV77]

I wish Eddie Van Halen would have played the Jazz Flute.

Then he wouldn’t of had much of an impact on music. Would of been the equivalent of a genius researching black holes.


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