Settle an argument...Can you debone hind quarters at camp?

[Tubby]

Doesn't that Exception pretty much apply to all the members? They are just going to leave it there temporarily until they head home or take it to a processor. I have a cold storage facility and haven't been required to keep that record book for several years now.

You can be a member and not pay... For example our landowner and his son both hunt on the same property we lease.

De-boning is processing (beyond quarters) and a cold storage or processing facility WITH a log book would be required.

We're not required to keep a record book but we do anyway. If you process at camp, a record book IS required.

From the TPWD quote I just quoted:

EXCEPTION: Deer or antelope that are properly tagged and accompanied by proof of sex may be temporarily placed in a non-commercial cold storage or processing facility on a hunting lease without being entered in the cold storage record book.

And FTR, we do not process at our camp.. we could but we don't. I process my own at home.

[Tubby]

What if you own the ranch and plan on processing and keeping the meat on the premise. Wouldn't that meet definition of final destination and not require log book?

Good question...

[Stykbow]

Yes,If camp is the final destination for that animal. If not...the answer is no.

[Artos]

Don't listen to those that say you can...they are incorrect if you transport.

Like stated, only if you have a cold log storage.

[flinger]

What about when you bring it home and debone to freeze it for the annual sausage making day at another destination. Would it be breaking the law to transport the deboned meet?

[AntlerCollector]

What about when you bring it home and debone to freeze it for the annual sausage making day at another destination. Would it be breaking the law to transport the deboned meet?

No, because once it's hit the freezer it's considered final destination. No different than taking a pack of ground venison over to your buddies house to make burgers

[Bleu]

So to be "legal" for transport they're basically letting you break it down enough to stuff in an ice chest.

1. Proof of sex has to be attached. This would mean if you're using the head for proof it has to stay on the neck.
2. Animal not to be processed beyond quartering and removal of backstraps
3. Proper tag must accompany animal

Are you guys taking off front and hind quarters, then throwing the carcass (with head and neck attached) in the cooler, or are you leaving reproductive organs and removing the head?

[BlackHogDown]

Edit:

^what he said

I misread the proof of sex "attached" part. So if I had an ear-tagged doe head in a bag inside the cooler with 4 quarters/backstraps on ice as well as my harvest log filled out, that would not be sufficient? Serious question. You guys have me second guessing myself.

[Deathrow Jethro]

Crud I thought I knew how to transport a whitetail legally but after this thread I am more confused now. Almost confused to the point of just killing it, strapping it to the hood of my truck and taking it straight to the processor's.

This is what I do (for the record I do not gut mine. I hang my deer by the back legs and just drop the guts down into the chest cavity.)

Remove back straps and tender loins, place in ice chest.
Remove the front shoulders, place in ice chest.
Remove the hindquarters, place in ice chest.
Remove neck meat if there is a substantial amount, place in ice chest.
Remove brisket or any other substantial meat, place in ice chest.

Cut the head off as proof of sex and place in a sack to transport back home with the cooler of meat.

Dispose of remaining carcass, guts and legs in the "GUT PILE"

Is this illegal?

Wish a GW would get on this thread and clarify for everyone.

[Bleu]

Crud I thought I knew how to transport a whitetail legally but after this thread I am more confused now. Almost confused to the point of just killing it, strapping it to the hood of my truck and taking it straight to the processor's.

This is what I do (for the record I do not gut mine. I hang my deer by the back legs and just drop the guts down into the chest cavity.)

Remove back straps and tender loins, place in ice chest.
Remove the front shoulders, place in ice chest.
Remove the hindquarters, place in ice chest.
Remove neck meat if there is a substantial amount, place in ice chest.
Remove brisket or any other substantial meat, place in ice chest.

Cut the head off as proof of sex and place in a sack to transport back home with the cooler of meat.

Dispose of remaining carcass, guts and legs in the "GUT PILE"

Is this illegal?

Wish a GW would get on this thread and clarify for everyone.

Yes. You broke your first rule at line one, then kept your foot on the throttle. One of those deals where common sense and law don't always line up.

[mastercraftka]

If i missed I apologize but does MLD still follow the same rules for cold storage logs?

[Deathrow Jethro]

Yes. You broke your first rule at line one, then kept your foot on the throttle. One of those deals where common sense and law don't always line up.

Do enlighten me then.

This is the method that was taught to me as a kid and this is the only way I have ever seen anyone clean a deer.

[Louis]

We do same thing. Remove back strap, tenderloin, front quarters, rear quarters and neck meat, tagged head of doe or buck, place all in ice chest, fill out harvest log and transport to processor. Gws been to our camp and checked all and everything ok. If ur NOT SURE, contact GW and ask them. Better to b safe than get a fine.

[WCB]

Well, as usual, opinions run the gamut around here...

Best answer is email TPWD and ask your very specific question and then keep said answer with you when a GW has a different interpretation than Austin.

A few years ago we had a former TBH member out for a doe hunt on my place during late season antlerless/spike season. He shot a one unbranched antler buck when he should have shot a doe only. I was ****** and called GW about the definition of a "spike" and an "unbranched" antler. 2 GWs said the unbranched was legal and 3 others, including a Major, said it was illegal. The rule has since been changed to "unbranched" just like during regular AR seasons...

[AntlerCollector]

We do same thing. Remove back strap, tenderloin, front quarters, rear quarters and neck meat, tagged head of doe or buck, place all in ice chest, fill out harvest log and transport to processor. Gws been to our camp and checked all and everything ok. If ur NOT SURE, contact GW and ask them. Better to b safe than get a fine.

Just because the GW let you do it doesn't make it legal









This^^^^ is what I do also when I'm hunting away from my walk in cooler