I've got a Cannon (popular but NOT top of the line,) great fire rating...but also guarded by "hidden" traps and a Catahoula that will eat your arms off ! I looked at and researched so many different brands and models, but at the end decided on one that fit what I wanted in my budget. Besides all the fire ratings, size (none actually hold what they say they do depending on scoped rifles, etc.) we also have an extensive camera and wireless security system at our house so you can't cut the power lines and disable the monitors. You opened a "can of worms" with your OP so keep doing your research. Like ARTOS mentioned or alluded to, weight and placement where YOU want it is another expense! I also got many quotes on delivery and spent a few extra $$ but it was very much worth it observing the guys get it in where I wanted it. A BIG safe is a "bith.." to handle no matter how strong or young you are. Ours is also full, so whatever you can spend on "promoted capacity," put in more $$ if possible to get as much capacity as possible for future firearm acquisitions.
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You can afford a re-furb commercial safe
Originally posted by Doug's_Optics View PostI guess my budget is up to about the $3k range...
Tell George what size you want and he will send you an inventory list with photos and dimensions. They get new inventory daily, so George may also send you real-time updates when something good arrives.
After you choose a safe, they refurbish the internals and then you pick the paint color and the two new locks that you want (mechanical dial, digital, or key).
You pay half up front with a credit card, and half after delivery and installation. No sales tax.
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Originally posted by Mike D View PostThe reason Amsec is so heavy is because of the concrete they fill it with.
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Originally posted by banzai View PostWith your budget, you should call George at Worldwide Safe in Florida (800-932-2278) and get a real safe that weighs 3500 lbs empty, not a residential security cabinet. They re-furbish commercial safes that are UL-30 on all sides and deliver them nationwide to jewelry stores and cash handling businesses. The sales price includes delivery into your house by professional team out of San Antonio that install commercial safes into businesses all over Texas every day. Your walls and floors will not be damaged.
Tell George what size you want and he will send you an inventory list with photos and dimensions. They get new inventory daily, so George may also send you real-time updates when something good arrives.
After you choose a safe, they refurbish the internals and then you pick the paint color and the two new locks that you want (mechanical dial, digital, or key).
You pay half up front with a credit card, and half after delivery and installation. No sales tax.
Send me a PM if you have questions.Last edited by 8mpg; 05-07-2017, 10:36 PM.
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Originally posted by 8mpg View Postactually its not really that heavy. If you read up on AR15.com, one of their engineers posts a lot about the safes. Drylight is a concrete type material but its not a normal concrete. Its much lighter and is supposed to be brittle. When comparing safe to safe, Sturdy and Amsec were very close in steel for the body and door. I looked hard at the Sturdy but when you swap from drywall to their fire protection, it added $700 and that put it out of my budget. They make a quality safe. I love their customization.
This is a great idea. I talked to George before I bought my Amsec. My house is on pier and beam and just wont hold the weight. I'd have to install it in the garage. Its a heck of a deal for a real TL safe.
The difference is drywall is a very poor fire barrier. The insulation that sturdy uses is a real fire/heat barrier insulation.
I'm also not convinced that the product that AMSEC uses is a great fire insulator. It will absorb and hold heat much like brick or concrete on a hot Texas day. You can feel heat radiating from it for hours after the sun has gone down.
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Originally posted by COWDOG View Post
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Dave
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