Reclaim/remedy mixing??

[Boomerang]

If you shredded, you need to use diesel mixed with your chemical. Other foliar applications only take 1% water based solution. After shredding there is nothing to absorb the chemical, so applying to the stumps with the oil will allow the roots / stump to absorb for a systemic kill. There will be some missed spots, reapply as soon as possible.

A problem with shredding is you now have a disproportionate root system to the above ground growth, so foliar applications in the future are more difficult to kill without using an oil base.

[SaltwaterSlick]

Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but anyone know if Remedy will work on Chinese Tallow? Stuff it tryin' to take over my big pasture...

[Radar]

Well, not so fast... If you use those ratios, you won't have enough room in your tank...

adding 4+gallons of Remedy to 10 gallons of diesel is over 14 gallons... You got a 10 gallon tank... need to work on the math a bit more...

You need to calculate it so that the total volume of diesel + Remedy is 10 gallons (or a bit less.)

Got to do it by smaller volume then add...
1 gallon = 128 ounces
.17 X 128 = 21.76 ounces/gallon

total volume = 10 gallons or 1280 ounces. Of that .17 is Remedy that means you got 217.6 ounces of Remedy or 1.7 gallons. So you need 8.3 gallons of diesel and 1.7 gallons of Remedy to give you a 17% solution in 10 gallons...

Etxbuckman asked how much was 17% of a 25 gallon tank. Which would be 4.25 gallons. If your going to use a 25 gallon tank to spray a chemical at 17% solution you would use 21 gallons of diesel and 3.57 gallons of chemical. 21 x .17= 3.57 of chemical plus 21 gallons of surfactent would make a total of 24.57 gallons.

[texashunter56]

Need to check on timing for spraying mesquites after shredding. From what I have been told you need to spray immediately after shredding to get a good kill. Also, I do not start to foliar spray on mesquites till May down here in my area.

[SaltwaterSlick]

Etxbuckman asked how much was 17% of a 25 gallon tank. Which would be 4.25 gallons. If your going to use a 25 gallon tank to spray a chemical at 17% solution you would use 21 gallons of diesel and 3.57 gallons of chemical. 21 x .17= 3.57 of chemical plus 21 gallons of surfactent would make a total of 24.57 gallons.

Yep, you're right, and I even messed up on the OP... I used all the "20's" in his thread and just read that into the size of his tank... It was actually a 15 gallon tank he had... For that one he'd need 2.55 gallons of Remedy, the rest in diesel...

[Etxbuckman]

Yep, you're right, and I even messed up on the OP... I used all the "20's" in his thread and just read that into the size of his tank... It was actually a 15 gallon tank he had... For that one he'd need 2.55 gallons of Remedy, the rest in diesel...

Math makes my head hurt. LOL

[Radar]

Radar. I shredded about 20 acres of THICK overgrowth. It's an old pasture that hasn't been planted in at least 8 years. It just got overrun with mesquite. There's thousands of stumps now about 4-5 inches tall. Some 2-3 " diameter. I was thinking about borrowing a book type sprayer and pulling it behind my mule and just sprayin everything. I don't care about killing it all this year as long as the mesquite don't come back.

It will take a lot chemical at 17% to spray 20 acres. Maybe look at this link for application rate. http://msdssearch.dow.com/PublishedL...romPage=GetDoc

Spray chemical then wait 30 days, root plow, scrape off roots, disc and plant in fall with winter oats. Seriously before I did anything else, I would talk to the county extension agent for some input or ideas. Do you know what you want to do with the 20 acres? Pasture for livestock or food plots? The Mesquites will always come back and you will always need to tend to them.

[planomustang]

Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but anyone know if Remedy will work on Chinese Tallow? Stuff it tryin' to take over my big pasture...

It will work if you do the base spray method. Nothing survives that.

Using a 17% mix, spray the lower 18" of the trunk. Don't worry about the top 2-3", but make sure you cover the trunk where it meets the ground. Imagine spraying a "belt" around the tree, with no breaks in coverage.

[Radar]

Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but anyone know if Remedy will work on Chinese Tallow? Stuff it tryin' to take over my big pasture...

I used this method last fall on a few China Berry trees and they are dead right now, and I know they are different trees. I have heard that Chinese Tallow seeds can lay dormant for three years then sprout.

[mudcatz71]

Higher somebody to rip it for you. Then you can fight the small percent of trees that try to make a comeback.

[Abctx]

Cut stump (remedy/diesel)usually needs to be done within a few hours of cutting (otherwise, the cambrium has sealed itself off). Foliar spraying (remedy/reclaim) is out, because you now have no foliage to translocate the stuff to the roots.

Your best bet, in my opinion, is to wait until it sprouts again, then do remedy/diesel, or maybe do remedy/reclaim NEXT year when conditions are right. BTW, the diesel/remedy mix isn't something you spray the whole field with, you just spray it directly on the stump and bases of the new groth.

At least you'll only be spraying stuff that is 1-2 feet high (short enough to drive a boom over)rather than the tall stuff you had.

Reclaim isn't cheap, it'd be a shame to waste it this year to no effect.

[rtjh]

I will be using Sendero for the first time later this year for some foliar application. Ive heard good reports about it. Pathfinder is a good option for basal spraying, no mixing required.

[Puncher51]

Need to check on timing for spraying mesquites after shredding. From what I have been told you need to spray immediately after shredding to get a good kill. Also, I do not start to foliar spray on mesquites till May down here in my area.

Bingo! After 15 minutes after cutting(shredding in the OP's case) the cut surface gets waxy and will not absorb any chemical. Also as had already been mentioned, now once the trees leaf back out there will not be enough green matter to absorb enough chemical to kill the roots. Good luck! I think you may need it.

[Puncher51]

Cut stump (remedy/diesel)usually needs to be done within a few hours of cutting (otherwise, the cambrium has sealed itself off). Foliar spraying (remedy/reclaim) is out, because you now have no foliage to translocate the stuff to the roots.

Your best bet, in my opinion, is to wait until it sprouts again, then do remedy/diesel, or maybe do remedy/reclaim NEXT year when conditions are right.

At least you'll only be spraying stuff that is 1-2 feet high (short enough to drive a boom over)rather than the tall stuff you had.

Reclaim isn't cheap, it'd be a shame to waste it this year to no effect.

Agreed! Plus Dow is phasing out Reclaim, so it'll be darn near impossible to find. They are replacing it with Sendero. I think basal application of Remedy and diesel will be the best bet. It's going to be pricey and time consuming if they are as thick as previously stated.

[Abctx]

Agreed! Plus Dow is phasing out Reclaim, so it'll be darn near impossible to find. They are replacing it with Sendero. I think basal application of Remedy and diesel will be the best bet. It's going to be pricey and time consuming if they are as thick as previously stated.

Also, if you're gonna do basal bark spraying (remedy/diesel)do yourself a favor and get the Teejet 5500-X1 tip that BrushBusters recommends. It sprays .016 gallons per minute. That means it will take more than 50 minutes to spray a gallon of mixture. Most tips that come with sprayers will spray out a gallon in 5-10 mins. Yes, the tip costs $20, but it can save you way more in supplies if you're spraying a lot, plus save you in time having to constantly mix another gallon of basal bark spray.

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