I have my kids show me what the teacher showed them then I figure out where the boys went wrong and then help them. If you teach them our way, they will fail school.
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I only know basic math but all the processes to get answers to simple math problems makes no sense to me. It reminds me of when the school board decided we had to have year-round schooling. At the time I thought no one in control was taught this way and they are on the school board so how did they get so smart. If it was such a good idea why did they stop doing it? I hope this math comes to the same ending.
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Originally posted by Randy Madden View PostMy kids come home from school all the time with bad grades in math. ( stuff I helped them on) They show me their graded papers and 99 percent of the time the answers are right but it's "not solved" correctly.
BS!!!!!!!!!!! If the answer is right then what's the dam difference??!?!?!?
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If you want it to change take a closer look at who you are voting for in state and local elections. Texas bureaucracy has changed the requirements, scoring and rating for schools. Teachers have to teach all requirements the state lists, not some. If they can't prove they are they will lose their job. This is their attempt to improve our test scores to move up in the national ranking.
I know that math curriculum requirements have gotten crazy. They have basically pushed everything down 2 grades over the last few years. I'm talking about 6th grade math being taught in 4th. 8th (Algebra) moved down to 6th, you tell me how many 6th grade minds are ready for Algebra.
I'm going to ruffle some feathers; but the party responsible for a lot of these changes that have been made: Republican.
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Originally posted by 2050z View Postactual email to my son's teacher
I was helping ****** with his homework last night, and I wanted to touch base with you on the division problems he’s having to do (I believe this was for last week when he was absent). Can you tell me why he has to learn so many methods to do long division? He is so frustrated and keeps asking me “Mom, can’t I just divide it?” and I don’t know what to tell him. He doesn’t understand why he has to learn these alternate methods (sequential subtraction, partitioned quotients [can’t remember the exact name]) if he already knows how to simply divide. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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Yes, mam. The state of Texas says we have to teach all these different methods so that we differentiate instruction. Someone may not understand straight multiplication or long division but might get one of these other methods. But, as I have said in class it's my job to show the students these methods and practice them but I let them pick which way they want to do their problems on home work. There was one paper that I required them to do the distributive property (breaking apart a number by place value) in doing most of the problems
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Originally posted by cap50948 View PostIf you want it to change take a closer look at who you are voting for in state and local elections. Texas bureaucracy has changed the requirements, scoring and rating for schools. Teachers have to teach all requirements the state lists, not some. If they can't prove they are they will lose their job. This is their attempt to improve our test scores to move up in the national ranking.
I know that math curriculum requirements have gotten crazy. They have basically pushed everything down 2 grades over the last few years. I'm talking about 6th grade math being taught in 4th. 8th (Algebra) moved down to 6th, you tell me how many 6th grade minds are ready for Algebra.
I'm going to ruffle some feathers; but the party responsible for a lot of these changes that have been made: Republican.
Alexis understands enough to tell me I'm wrong, but doesn't understand good enough to do it on her own. She gets good grades on classwork, but suffers on home work.
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Originally posted by 2050z View Postactual email to my son's teacher
I was helping ****** with his homework last night, and I wanted to touch base with you on the division problems he’s having to do (I believe this was for last week when he was absent). Can you tell me why he has to learn so many methods to do long division? He is so frustrated and keeps asking me “Mom, can’t I just divide it?” and I don’t know what to tell him. He doesn’t understand why he has to learn these alternate methods (sequential subtraction, partitioned quotients [can’t remember the exact name]) if he already knows how to simply divide. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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Yes, mam. The state of Texas says we have to teach all these different methods so that we differentiate instruction. Someone may not understand straight multiplication or long division but might get one of these other methods. But, as I have said in class it's my job to show the students these methods and practice them but I let them pick which way they want to do their problems on home work. There was one paper that I required them to do the distributive property (breaking apart a number by place value) in doing most of the problems
I have several good friends who are teachers. The above info. is the big problem, District mandates that the superintendants/school board impose on their principals and teachers. I'm guessing 99% of the teachers would rather teach old school methods, but they can't. They are told what to teach and how to teach it, down to having to submit detailed lesson plans for each school day documenting that all of these mandates.
Its funny this came up, I was helping my freshman daughter last night review for a math test. One problem was multiplying this (x + y) (k - m). Simple stuff even though I had to think back on it for a minute since it has been so long since I've done this stuff. Anyways, she had some big chart looking thing drawn and some "common core" I'm guessing method to use, I was like what the heck? Sure enough, I looked it up real quick, we were taught FOIL, multiply the first, outside, inside, and last numbers and then simplify. Takes about 20 seconds to use FOIL compared to 2 minutes to do it the long, modern way. Unbelievable.
The other issue that drives me nuts is that they don't use books any more.
Daughter: Can you help me with my math?
Me: Sure, grab your paper and book so I can remind myself what ya'll are doing.
Daughter: We don't have a book, just notes and online examples.
Me: Son of a ..............
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Originally posted by Goldeneagle View PostGot news for ya. Tonight we get to start on algebra. IN 3RD GRADE.
Alexis understands enough to tell me I'm wrong, but doesn't understand good enough to do it on her own. She gets good grades on classwork, but suffers on home work.
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Originally posted by systemnt View PostIts not what they are teaching.. its HOW they are teaching it...
The **** kids have to do to perform SIMPLE math problems these days is RIDICULOUS...
a simple 5+1 = should not involve a paragraph of word statements, and 4 lines of code to do.
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