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    #16
    Originally posted by gatorgrizz27 View Post
    Is this pulling it back and forth from the ranch a couple times a year or towing it a couple times a week to different job sites? If I take is the latter, 20k is a pretty decent chunk of weight to pull regularly and the tires, brakes, rear end, etc, will last longer if you step to up an F-450/F-550. You can get crew cabs with nicer interiors, I'd check out some of the horse forums classifieds.
    I'm moving it a couple times a week right now and looked at the f-450 quite hard at first but the lower gears and speed limiter of 88mph keeps me out of one. This will still be my primary vehicle for a few years.

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      #17
      I would buy a Ford just because I think Ford is a better truck. I have F250 6.7 powerstroke
      My son would tell you Chevy. He has the 2500hd duramax.
      It will come down to personal preference. Which ever you like the best will probably do just fine.

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        #18
        Get the one that fits your budget. They're all HD at that level.

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          #19
          I am brand loyal (chevy) but if i were buying one to tow that much weight regular id buy a 550 dodge with a the heavier brakes and tranny. They all have the power. We run lots of ford and dodge 550s loaded to the hilt everyday and the fords dont hold up. They eat tires and are in the shop on the regular. I picked one up that had the motor replaced and almost passed out when i saw the invoice. We have 20 or so mixed dodge and ford 550 trucks all weight 12 to 17k everyday.

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            #20
            Get the Cummins with an Aisin.

            It's the only true Medium service duty truck at 1 ton level. Ford and Chevy don't use the same power train components on their trucks larger than 1 ton

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              #21
              I have a 2012 Cummins dually with 130k and it has been a great truck. That being said, I would not recommend one of the newer ones with the DEF system unless you plan on deleting it. I know too many people who use them for hauling that have been left stranded. I can't speak to the newer duramaxes, but the ones I had when I was hauling equipment (02-08 models) had issues with the breaks (that being said I was a hot shot driver hauling heavy loads every day). My last several trucks have been Cummins, and we will keep this one for my wife to haul her horses with until is shows any signs of reliability issues, but my next truck for me to drive (my wife has pretty much stole my dodge from me) will be a 2013-2016 Powerstroke. They pull great, are very comfortable, and they seem to have very few problems. Just my $.02. Good luck.
              Last edited by TXHunteronnie; 02-25-2017, 10:20 AM.

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                #22
                Personally it's more about stopping a heavy load rather how fast I can haul ***** in one. Just about all diesels now have exhaust brakes that help.

                The big three are all close in really comparing them, it might come to budget and resell value.


                My $.02

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                  #23
                  Towing 20,000 lbs

                  Your real close if not over weight to require a CDL if I remember correctly.

                  I know dps was busting a lot of contractors with dually's and heavy loads. Some of them went to single rear wheels to stay under weight.

                  Something to look into as a heads up.

                  Who Is Required To Get A CDL? will be covered on page 1 of The High Road Online CDL Training Program. Prepare for your CDL test now!
                  Last edited by cattlelackranch; 02-25-2017, 10:23 AM.

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                    #24
                    ^^^and yes, we do haul loads heavier than a horse trailer with it^^^

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                      #25
                      Seems like the dodge 6.7 is better for the big heavy loads. Most of the torque is generated at a lower RPM than ford or Chevy. I've pulled an John Deere 8520 with duals filled with water that was close to 25,000 lbs with ease.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by cattlelackranch View Post
                        Your real close if not over weight to require a CDL if I remember correctly.

                        I know dps was busting a lot of contractors with dually's and heavy loads. Some of them went to single rear wheels to stay under weight.

                        Something to look into as a heads up.

                        http://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-training-program/page1


                        Any 1 ton pulling a dual tandem requires CDL. Farm tags might be an exception.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by bboswell View Post
                          Any 1 ton pulling a dual tandem requires CDL. Farm tags might be an exception.
                          26,001 GVWR combined is the break point.

                          My 14k GVWR dually can pull 12k GVWR with class C license as long as I am not for hire.

                          Javi

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
                            26,001 GVWR combined is the break point.

                            My 14k GVWR dually can pull 12k GVWR with class C license as long as I am not for hire.

                            Javi


                            Correct. I reference a dual tandem trailer which will be more than 12K GVWR

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by bboswell View Post
                              Correct. I reference a dual tandem trailer which will be more than 12K GVWR
                              Not always...

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                                #30
                                My dual tandem is rated @ 20k. Yes I am under CDL requirements at this time and will be in the future as well. There's no way around it for me anymore.

                                Spent yesterday truck shopping. Ive exhausted all my used options and am beginning to look at basic 2017's now. Found an xl at Gullo for 54k....

                                Who is our resident Ford dealer, truckville?

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