state code - use of deadly force

[Kingfisher747]

my truck got broken and I had left my wallet in my center console. I wake up that morning and ultimately find out several other neighbors cars were broken into as well. Several of them had their garage door openers stolen.

Within a couple hours, I went to the retailers that my credit card was used at, and actually watched the guy using my credit card on their video feeds (time stamps matched up). he was with one other guy and a girl. I went to a restaurant he ate at, and the owner knew exactly who I was asking about and found the receipt. She said he came in there all the time with an older lady and girl about his age.

two days later this guy I watched on video was arrested for breaking into a house, via a stolen garage door opener in a neighborhood a couple miles from my house. He had my drivers license in his wallet when he was arrested.

after all that..I get a letter from the PD today saying that " there are not enough solvability factors for your case to warrant a follow up investigator"

the guy has a "crew", and who knows how many garage door openers are in his crew's possession. There's been a bit of an epidemic out here lately with this, but my issue is that when there are obviously no consequences, hell. why not. maybe a bullet between the eyes will tamp down the crime for a while.

as far as the text of the language, it's not about a bird feeder being stolen, it's about not knowing a criminal's intent when he's in my truck or coming into my garage in the middle of the night and I happen to walk outside at the same time.

That's down in the Valley?

[Shinesintx]

Might be harsh but hes pretty much right. So I looked up my old district for S&Gs at this time...

major accident x2
in progress (robbery with shots fired) 1
family disturbance- x2
DOA-1
Missing person x2
Fire-1
assault-x2
meet the citizen (barking dogs to found cellphone)- x4

Theres about 15 units on the robbery to include 2 K9s

It surprised me, but I live in Frisco. Gun shots, murders, robberys, and the such are kinda rare...but vehicles get broken in all the time. Heck, the police chief lived 4 houses over and I've been broken into 3 times. Criminals don't care.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Cops can't be everywhere.

You're pretty much on your own. You makes your decisions and takes your chances, good luck.

Javi

[Quackerbox]

It surprised me, but I live in Frisco. Gun shots, murders, robberys, and the such are kinda rare...but vehicles get broken in all the time. Heck, the police chief lived 4 houses over and I've been broken into 3 times. Criminals don't care.

We used to take bets on dinner the following day as to what 100 block of the busy street was gonna catch a robbery first. We caught a few but not enough to make a dent. Kinda like hogs at the deer lease

and K9 just caught the two outstanding robbers. Makes for good radio traffic

[gingib]

Theft is not a crime punishable by death, and I would think most Christians would look down on killing someone to protect "stuff". If I felt my life may be in danger, yes deadly force for sure. But, I have insurance to cover things that are stolen. Yes, it sucks (I just went through this), but I would not kill someone over it.

I believe the Bible mentions, if someone steals your cloak, give them also your tunic. It doesn't mention killing them over it.

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SO if your sleeping with your wife and kids and a stranger breaks into your house and it is pitch dark and he comes at you or into your room......your not gonna shoot him if he continues to come?

[BoneDigger]

SO if your sleeping with your wife and kids and a stranger breaks into your house and it is pitch dark and he comes at you or into your room......your not gonna shoot him if he continues to come?

Apparently you did not read my post carefully. I said that if I felt I was in danger that I would act accordingly. Someone breaking into my house while I am there would meet that requirement.

Now, on the other hand, if I and my family went on a trip and came home late to find a moving van in front of my house I would park down the street, call the police and let them handle it. I would be in no danger and wouldn't go in with guns blazing. Likewise, if I were asleep and heard someone stealing my ATV, again, I'd call the police. My house and yard are covered with security cameras, so they will eventually be caught. If not, I'll let insurance pay for it.

At no point would I let myself or my family be in harm's way, but I will not defend property with deadly force. No property is worth a person's life.

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[gingib]

Good deal. I feel the same way

[JustinJ]

SO if your sleeping with your wife and kids and a stranger breaks into your house and it is pitch dark and he comes at you or into your room......your not gonna shoot him if he continues to come?

That's not even close to what he said. C'mon. There is a difference between someone threatening you or your family and wanting someone dead because they stole something from your car.

[JustinJ]

Apparently you did not read my post carefully. I said that if I felt I was in danger that I would act accordingly. Someone breaking into my house while I am there would meet that requirement.

Now, on the other hand, if I and my family went on a trip and came home late to find a moving van in front of my house I would park down the street, call the police and let them handle it. I would be in no danger and wouldn't go in with guns blazing. Likewise, if I were asleep and heard someone stealing my ATV, again, I'd call the police. My house and yard are covered with security cameras, so they will eventually be caught. If not, I'll let insurance pay for it.

At no point would I let myself or my family be in harm's way, but I will not defend property with deadly force. No property is worth a person's life.

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Beat me to it

[coy-ote]

Get some bean bags for your shotgun, less than lethal force he will go down and hold him for the police, I love to see the bean bag deployed, almost as much as the tazer, I used to love the pepper spray but before then I used the pepper stick or blackjack for up close and personal confrontations.

[Black Ice]

The Rock looks like he is off cycle there and I think I could have taken him.


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[Skyjunky]

That's why I highlighted "may"

Theres too many scenarios to delve into everyone and every one is a bit different. If the guy is running away down the street with a stolen laptop that is insured, do you still have the legal right to shoot him? I'd say no. Of course it's not up to me, it's up to a jury of your peers.

Also remember, if the use of deadly force was justified, the shooter cannot be sued by the family. Or more correctly the shooter is immune from civil liability in the state of Texas.

You can be sued for anything. It will eventually be thrown out after spending a lot of money on an attorney.

Every bullet that comes out of your gun has a potential lawyer tied to it.

[All Lit Up]

Theft is not a crime punishable by death, and I would think most Christians would look down on killing someone to protect "stuff". If I felt my life may be in danger, yes deadly force for sure. But, I have insurance to cover things that are stolen. Yes, it sucks (I just went through this), but I would not kill someone over it.

I believe the Bible mentions, if someone steals your cloak, give them also your tunic. It doesn't mention killing them over it.

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You might try quoting what the Bible actually says. The verse you refer to is Jesis teaching that if someone should sue you and win a judgement, not to refrain from full payment. Matthew 5:40. This is purely ethical instruction and not law. The question posed by the OP is addressed specifically in Exodus 22:2 which says in plain language that a thief caught breaking in during the night who is struck and killed has no redress in the legal system of that day. Not that Biblical law will provide much protection by itself in the Texas judicial system.

[BoneDigger]

You might try quoting what the Bible actually says. The verse you refer to is Jesis teaching that if someone should sue you and win a judgement, not to refrain from full payment. Matthew 5:40. This is purely ethical instruction and not law. The question posed by the OP is addressed specifically in Exodus 22:2 which says in plain language that a thief caught breaking in during the night who is struck and killed has no redress in the legal system of that day. Not that Biblical law will provide much protection by itself in the Texas judicial system.

I'll let you explain that to God one day. I personally do not believe that He would condone murder.

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[JW]

state code - use of deadly force

Someone gets in my home, tries to car jack me (which puts me and my kids in direct danger), obviously hurt my kids that's his ***. Other than that I'm not taking anyone's life over something monetary. I don't care what the TBH Death Squad does. I don't have to pay their Attourney fees. [emoji2]


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