Why do we need a wall?

[systemnt]

um.... I would rather spend money keeping people out.. than housing them, feeding them, providing medical care for them while they are jailed for illegally crossing.
"special grants from the federal gubment" is your money...
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Spend it being proactive.. not retroactive.

Can we make the wall a giant bug zapper?

[RiverRat1]

There isn't going to be a wall, that's a bunch of BS Trump just saying what he thinks we want to hear. Even if they built a wall, it would not stop the problem in the least. In fact, there is already a wall/fence covering part of the border, you think that stopped the problem, or even slowed it down? Of course not, they just go around or dig tunnels....YUGE tunnels, the best tunnels! Give me a break. As soon as we stop hemorrhaging money into entitlements and force people go get a **** job, there won't be any more need for the illegals to come over here and scrub toilets or pour concrete or lay sod....Americans will be happy to do it for a fair wage, hunger is one Hell of a motivator. Stop giving cradle to grave handouts and folks will find work and learn that it feels good to provide for yourself. Couple that with stricter penalties for hiring illegals, as in, lose your business and go to prison for hiring illegals, and everything will stabilize just fine.

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I was about to add to my post but this sums it up. Treat illegals as though they did something illegal and give them nothing. Repeal anchor baby law and word will spread in Mexico and the flow will slow down.

There were 4 Mexican families at Church that supposedly left to go back to Mexico after Trump won. I said to myself "Bye" I can't fathom a reason I should care why they left.

[Ætheling]

um.... I would rather spend money keeping people out.. than housing them, feeding them, providing medical care for them while they are jailed for illegally crossing.
"special grants from the federal gubment" is your money...
.
Spend it being proactive.. not retroactive.

Can we make the wall a giant bug zapper?

That would make for some loud popping noises at night lol.

[RiverRat1]

um.... I would rather spend money keeping people out.. than housing them, feeding them, providing medical care for them while they are jailed for illegally crossing.
"special grants from the federal gubment" is your money...
.
Spend it being proactive.. not retroactive.

Can we make the wall a giant bug zapper?

How about throw a dart at a world map and we then treat any illegals however the country does where the dart hit the map?

[SaltwaterSlick]

um.... I would rather spend money keeping people out.. than housing them, feeding them, providing medical care for them while they are jailed for illegally crossing.
"special grants from the federal gubment" is your money...
.
Spend it being proactive.. not retroactive.

Can we make the wall a giant bug zapper?

Yessir that is old technology in fact. When the "Iron Curtain" was in force, it in fact was 3 big fences about 50 yards apart across the German country side. The middle fence was the main "wall" every few kilometers in strategic locations there were guard towers, however, between the first fence and middle fence, there were mines galore. between the middle fence and the outer fence, there were 9mm machine guns on the fence posts pointing in in staggered levels on the posts. They were motion sensing and when triggered the guns would pivot and fire full auto... so in a sense they were sort of a bug zapper... That wall was to imprison people... The border is universally understood to be a line of demarcation between 2 sovereign countries and its crossing should be done in accordance with the laws of both countries... It should allow 2-way crossings between each county's citizens within the rule of law. When that does not happen, then law enforcement should be increased until compliance is achieved. A wall never stopped anyone. Law and its enforcement will.

[Chad C]

I'd like to see a big beautiful wall! Vatican City type wall, sure would be nice...

Fences or big beautiful WALLS, just to name a few:

Gaza and Israel
Malaysia and Thailand
Saudi Arabia and Iraq
India and Pakistan
India and Bangladesh
Spain and Morocco


Bring on the WALL and play me some Pink Floyd!

[Razrbk89]

Punish employers. You knowingly hire illegal immigrants, you go to jail. Pretty easy concept that would stop the nonsense.

"But I can't find Americans that will work!" Boohoo. Pay your employees more.

[Chew]

Putting up a wall is equivalent to putting PVC on your feeder legs.

[LWC]

To enforce the laws without hindering or stopping the flow, there'd need to be a lot more agents, judges, etc. and that would be an ongoing and enormous funding issue. If something can be prevented or greatly reduced with a wall, fence, AND enforce the laws, I think the effort would be more effective and efficient.

Make it a top priority and the FINES SO LARGE and I don't think you would need too many more gov employees. Businesses would not hire them if it ends up costing them money. I don't think a wall will stop them any more than the walls/fences we have now. If there is a job market for them, they will come.
Stop the demand and the supply will stop. But if we don't do that, why waste money on a wall or more security?

[muzzlebrake]

If we let Mexico know that all MFG plants/jobs etc are coming back out of there they will build it themselves and on their side of the river with slave labor from the criminals we send back.

Once the wall is built we can build some giant potato guns and just shoot them back across when we catch one

[softpoint]

um.... I would rather spend money keeping people out.. than housing them, feeding them, providing medical care for them while they are jailed for illegally crossing.
"special grants from the federal gubment" is your money...
.
Spend it being proactive.. not retroactive.

Can we make the wall a giant bug zapper?

Yes, an electrically charged fence with a vehicle trench and a few Auto Turret machine guns spaced along it would probably be pretty effective. And could sprinkle a few anti personnel mines along for special effects. They would either have to come over LEGALLY or risk the consequences.

[Fishy]

It would help keep the real taxpayers from escaping from our side.☺

I agree that enforcement of the laws has got to be toughened and more funds to pay the men/women to help enforce them.

When people are deported to SA, take them very deep into the country before releasing them. Somehow convince Mexico and other countries to help pay for it. Sounds good in theory, but not sure how it would be in reality.

[LWC]

It would help keep the real taxpayers from escaping from our side.☺

I agree that enforcement of the laws has got to be toughened and more funds to pay the men/women to help enforce them.

When people are deported to SA, take them very deep into the country before releasing them. Somehow convince Mexico and other countries to help pay for it. Sounds good in theory, but not sure how it would be in reality.

Enforce our laws with US Employers and there will not be anybody coming over here looking for a job. We wouldn't have to worry about what the other countries' governments do.

Then the border patrol could focus on the few folks coming across. They would not be coming over for a job and would likely be bad folks. Either drug runners or some other thug wanting to cause us harm. They could be dealt with more harshly when you don't have to worry that it is just someone coming over here trying to get a job.

[Mesquite Archer]

And don't buy the line of not being able to hire Americans, or employers are taking advantage of illegals for cheap labor. I have been in construction for 30 years and do not hire illegals.

The companies in our area that do are paying them good wages, $20.00 an hour with benefits is not hard for them to get with the all the work going on and a shortage of people. It's just easier for them to hire Jose's cousin that is looking for work and will get along on the crew than say no and look for legal workers. Especially, when there is very little pressure on the employer to do otherwise.

E-verify should be made mandatory, not voluntary as it is now. Strict enforcement with fines and jail time to employers that hire illegals would stop one end of the problem. Strict enforcement and jail time for getting caught here illegally would go a long way too.

They say the come here illegally to work, ok put them to work building the wall. Then send them home.

[BigC]

I was thinking save the money and just relocate a buncha gators into the Rio Grande.