Foundation problems

[OPC Patrick]

i would also give a lot of feedback on those company review sights like the yellow pages and such...

[Wits_End]

Specifications are straight forward, (1/360), which says it can't drop more than 1" over 360" or 1ft over 360ft, etc. So if it has dropped more than 1" over 30ft, it is out of specification. It sounds like yours is far out of spec. I say far out of spec because the home builder says 1.5" and likely is holding back on truth. It is also clear that they house is still moving as the crack has reopened.

If you've had work done in the past and it dropped several inches most foundation companies will not get it back to perfectly level. If they do it will put more stress on the foundation and could break it. Typically they try to lift it half way or so and stabilize it. So that kind of depends on your history.

Every situation is slightly different, especially if there is previous foundation work done on the house. Every home builder will fight this, no matter if they are clearly wrong or not. They know most will not fight it.

I think you only have two options:
Speak with the two third party engineers that gave you reports and get all the information you can. They may be able to recommend an attorney. Then go get an attorney.
2. You could just spend the money to have it fixed. Then have it reinspected to get a passing report, that is your choice. I would have an engineer create the repair plan and then inspect it once its done. That way you are fully covered.

[randal]

Specifications are straight forward, (1/360), which says it can't drop more than 1" over 360" or 1ft over 360ft, etc. So if it has dropped more than 1" over 30ft, it is out of specification. It sounds like yours is far out of spec. I say far out of spec because the home builder says 1.5" and likely is holding back on truth. It is also clear that they house is still moving as the crack has reopened.

If you've had work done in the past and it dropped several inches most foundation companies will not get it back to perfectly level. If they do it will put more stress on the foundation and could break it. Typically they try to lift it half way or so and stabilize it. So that kind of depends on your history.

Every situation is slightly different, especially if there is previous foundation work done on the house. Every home builder will fight this, no matter if they are clearly wrong or not. They know most will not fight it.

I think you only have two options:
Speak with the two third party engineers that gave you reports and get all the information you can. They may be able to recommend an attorney. Then go get an attorney.
2. You could just spend the money to have it fixed. Then have it reinspected to get a passing report, that is your choice. I would have an engineer create the repair plan and then inspect it once its done. That way you are fully covered.

Mine has dropped 1.5" from what they are calling zero in 36' 10"

[Wits_End]

Mine has dropped 1.5" from what they are calling zero in 36' 10"

That means it fails. Only allowed 1.2" at that distance and my guess is that it is not a linear drop. I bet most of the drop is over a shorter distance. Such as 1" over 15ft and then 0.5" over 20ft.

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[randal]

Thanks for all y'all's help, where can I find this? Is there a industry standard I can pull up? Pulte says it has to move 1.73 over all

[Atfulldraw]

are they self insured?

if not, go straight to their GL carrier.

[Wits_End]

Thanks for all y'all's help, where can I find this? Is there a industry standard I can pull up? Pulte says it has to move 1.73 over all

IRC R301.7
This covers new residential single family dwellings. Allowable deflection of structural members.

Texas ASCE has a guideline for evaluation of residential foundation. States L/360. This is also based on engineering judgement and since you have cracks it proves the foundation has failed.

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[randal]

Well just an update, yes they are a bunch of crooks IMO, ended up finding a buyer that was ok with it and then their lender required a inspection and would not lend on it.. Tried to explain this to pulte sent them all the info and basically was told too bad.. Could of filed a law suite and that would drag out forever so I just had to pay out of pocket to fix it.. Obviously will never buy one again and I know it won't affect their business but I guess it is what it is at this point..

[TeamAmerica]

Bummer. Hope your luck turns around quickly.

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[12RingKing]

Depending on how much it cost you out of pocket, I would consider suing them.

At the very least file BBB report and slam them in every way I could. Word of mouth kills. I'm in the process of looking at home builders and I will steer clear of them most likely now.

[Biggs]

Foundation warranties are only as good as the company behind them


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