Dove limits/possession & collared dove question

[Huntindad]

And then, we have Possession Limits, which is an entirely different discussion. One that I'm not even going to attempt with you. Good luck on your dove hunt.

posession limits are pretty cut and dried for migratory birds and quail too.

good night folks...gotta get up early.

[RodinaRanč]

not altogether true. he needs to be able to say which of those birds are regulated and should be counted. Non regulated should not be counted.

Yup...burden of proving guilt is upon the state, not upon you to prove innocence.

When i shoot a limit...they & any other collared doves get cleaned & thrown in a bag together with clean water & put on ice...when i'm cleaning, i'm cleaning, period.

If a gw chooses to not believe me or call me a liar...prove it!

[zr2chevy22]

When we were white wing hunting in Lytle we got checked by the game warden and he said cleaning the dove and removing both wings and plumage is fine. I then asked about ring neck. As he put it they base it off breast size when they are cleaned. Morning have the smallest breast, then white wing, then ring necks. He said for ease of identification and to speed up your interaction with a game warden should you be stopped you can clean everything but on the ring necked just leave one wing on. It's not required but it'll make their check faster.

[Mike]

We have dealt with this every year except this year(very few birds shot). We have been in areas that are heavy with Ringnecks and still shoot our limit of whitewings. We will clean all the birds and keep every carcass of the Ringnecks for proof. We will put all the birds together and stash the bonus carcasses in a trash bag for each day. We've done this for 11 years and been checked multiple times each year over 2-3 days and it has never been an issue. A few years ago we had 310 birds in a single day with 10 hunters, got checked and it was a non issue since we had bags full of the carcasses.

This is in Uvalde.

[Huntindad]

We have dealt with this every year except this year(very few birds shot). We have been in areas that are heavy with Ringnecks and still shoot our limit of whitewings. We will clean all the birds and keep every carcass of the Ringnecks for proof. We will put all the birds together and stash the bonus carcasses in a trash bag for each day. We've done this for 11 years and been checked multiple times each year over 2-3 days and it has never been an issue. A few years ago we had 310 birds in a single day with 10 hunters, got checked and it was a non issue since we had bags full of the carcasses.

This is in Uvalde.

I like this idea. I doubt we'll get that many, but like the idea of having the evidence handy.

good to know there are differences in size of the birds so the GW can more easily identify the birds.

thanx folks for the ideas.

[ultralite09]

Its not hard to clean and leave the wings on. I do this all the time when traveling with ducks.

Step on the head with one foot, step on the tail with the other foot, 2 fingers under the top of the breast plate, 2 fingers under the bottom of the breast plate and pull towards your chest. Walla! clean breast with no guts, and the wings are still attached.

Ive done this with dove, teal and full size ducks before. Have gotten checked multiple times with no issues and even get asked how I did it.

[Double-O-Dave]

Please see post #33 - I've asked a number of Game Wardens (probably 5 to 6), and they all said same/similar things that zr2chevy22 reported. All of the Game Wardens said that any experienced GW would be able to tell the species of dove by the size and appearance of the breast. Because of the "experienced" qualifier, and because it makes everyone's life a bit easier, I'd leave one wing on the Eurasian doves - if I could ever find any to shoot.

Good luck,

Dave

[Smart]

I like this idea. I doubt we'll get that many, but like the idea of having the evidence handy.



good to know there are differences in size of the birds so the GW can more easily identify the birds.



thanx folks for the ideas.

The whole idea of keeping the wing on the ringnecks is having the evidence handy...[emoji23][emoji23]