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    Baptist Standard Editorial on gun control ?!?

    Editorial: We must do something about gun violence in America
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    October 23, 2015
    By MARV KNOX / EDITOR
    How can people claim to be pro-life and still refuse to do something—anything—to turn the tide of gun violence in America?

    If people were consistently pro-life, they would (a) support efforts to reduce abortions, including the social and financial reasons that lead women to end pregnancy; (b) deal directly with euthanasia and assisted suicide, including the medical, physical and financial reasons that lead ill people to end their own lives; (c) advocate for reasonable gun control, including differentiating between firearms designed for hunting and weapons designed to take human life; and (d) seek criminal justice reform, including abolition of capital punishment.

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    Editor Marv Knox
    Chances are, the paragraph you just read made you happy one minute and angry the next, or vice-versa. Logic and consistency are not American hallmarks. Conservatives oppose abortion and physician-assisted suicide, and liberals oppose the proliferation of firearms and capital punishment. A consistent life-ethic would come down on the side of life every time.

    We live in the bloody shadow of the campus shooting in Roseburg, Ore., which happened in the bloody shadow of the on-air murder of a TV crew in Roanoke, Va., which happened in the bloody shadow of the church massacre in Charleston, S.C. So, for today, let’s focus on guns.

    To begin, let’s set aside single- and double-shot shotguns and hunting rifles. The vast majority of hunters use those guns legally and honorably. The legacy of game hunting predates our nation. Hunters feed their families and others. Hunting trips cement bonds between parents and children. Some people use hunting equipment illicitly, but the occasions are almost miniscule compared to other gun violations.

    Stem proliferation of assault rifles

    We must find a way to stem the proliferation and mayhem caused by high-capacity assault rifles. We also must do something to prevent unstable people from obtaining handguns that can be secreted into public places and used to take innocent lives.

    The Second Amendment states: “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” That has been the law of the land 224 years, and it’s not about to change. But perhaps it should be interpreted as conservative justices seek to interpret all aspects of the Constitution—literally. One solution would be to require participation in a “well-regulated militia” in order to possess military-style weapons.

    More practically, we must engage in a national dialogue and develop a purchasing structure that ensures only stable, law-abiding citizens have access to these weapons. Thorough background checks—whether the purchases are made in stores or at gun shows—should be required. If a gun is only going to be used for legal purposes, then a reasonable delay in taking possession should be no problem.

    Don't publicize murderers' names

    And here’s another step Americans should back that has nothing to do with obtaining firearms but has much to do with mass slayings: We should agree we do not want to know the names or see the faces of people who commit mass murder.

    This may be an unexpected proposal, coming from a news organization. The First Amendment guarantees press freedom. But in other situations, the media agree to withhold identities. For example, news outlets do not reveal the names of victims of sexual violence to protect their privacy. Why not withhold the identity of mass-murderers to deny them the attention they perversely crave? All other details could and should be reported, but mass murderers should be denied personal publicity.

    The old definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Every time we learn about another mass murder, we lament and wring our hands, but we have not done anything to change the future. That’s crazy.

    Since 20 children and six teachers died in Sandy Hook, Conn., almost three years ago, America has witnessed 142 school shootings, according to Religion News Service. That year in our nation, criminal homicides outnumbered justifiable homicides with guns 8,342 to 259.

    We cannot claim to be pro-life and stand for continuation of the slaughter.








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    #2
    Sure we can be pro life & not support gun measures. The error in this guy's logic is that Stricter gun laws will actually curb gun violence, ie expand LIFE. Murder is already illegal, regardless of method an extra layer of law will only burden those who are already willfully obeying the law.

    PS- I bet that guy or most of his reader are pro life AND pro death penalty.

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      #3
      I sent him a response. We shall see if any thing comes of it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Death from Above View Post
        I sent him a response. We shall see if any thing comes of it.
        FYI this isn't the first unbiblical/ liberal philosophy to creep into the church

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          #5
          Misguided
          One aspect of Liberalism is that there can be a time when bad things can be prevented if their ideas only have a fair chance to work. REALITY ( which liberals know nithing about ) is something they cant comprehend

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            #6
            so, single and double barrel shotguns are off the table, but semi/pumps are? uneducated in firearms I suspect. he probably gets his firearms education from tv shows

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              #7
              How many have been to Sandy Hook since the alleged shooting...i have, our company has an office 19miles away. I can tell you this... Tin foil hat people are onto something there. The school has been leveled and the students were relocated to other town schools. The city doesn't have grieving signs all over it.

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                #8
                Nothing biblical or Baptist in Mr. Knox' approach. It is the same old liberal mantra. A biblical pro-life stance protects the life of innocents, while requiring violent criminals to be held accountable before civil authority. The Bible nowhere requires the righteous to disarm and leave defenseless of their homes and families. To assume that the lawless will disarm just because of another law is foolish.

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                  #9
                  What a silly article. There's a difference between death and murder.
                  Gun vacuums lead to mass slaughter.
                  If everyone is allowed to carry everywhere, this conversation is over by most standards.
                  You can't out-legislate evil.

                  About the only thing I can agree on is not slobbering for details when these lunatics that shoot places up. Tough sell to a nation of gore gluttons, though; myself somewhat included.

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                    #10
                    I quit reading

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Japeatr View Post
                      How many have been to Sandy Hook since the alleged shooting...i have, our company has an office 19miles away. I can tell you this... Tin foil hat people are onto something there. The school has been leveled and the students were relocated to other town schools. The city doesn't have grieving signs all over it.
                      Put down the pipe.


                      I'm as pro gun as anyone (I believe full auto should be much easier to obtain) however the Sandy hook and 9/11 conspiracy theorists have to take a fn break.

                      Put forward some real proof that you obtained besides watching some dumb YouTube video and tell me it was a conspiracy. Innocent young children lost their life that day, and for anyone to unknowingly say it was a conspiracy is a fking joke and extremely disrespectful.
                      Last edited by snappertapper; 10-23-2015, 09:41 PM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Playa View Post
                        Sure we can be pro life & not support gun measures. The error in this guy's logic is that Stricter gun laws will actually curb gun violence, ie expand LIFE. Murder is already illegal, regardless of method an extra layer of law will only burden those who are already willfully obeying the law.

                        PS- I bet that guy or most of his reader are pro life AND pro death penalty.
                        Agree with this completely

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                          #13
                          Heck yes, get rid of all the guns. Then we can be hacked to death with knives and other objects. You have to be an idiot if you think you can end violence by getting rid of guns. I saw an article the other day where England is trying to get a law on the books against "pointy knives". Killers are going to kill, doesn't really matter to them what they use.

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                            #14
                            So hears the biggest idiocy,in the article! "More practically, we must engage in a national dialogue and develop a purchasing structure that ensures only stable, law-abiding citizens have access to these weapons. Thorough background checks—whether the purchases are made in stores or at gun shows—should be required. If a gun is only going to be used for legal purposes, then a reasonable delay in taking possession should be no problem."

                            Once a militia is forced to protect the constitution no one in the militia is considered 'law abiding'

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                              #15
                              Just going to leave this here. So, you are twice as likely to be in a knife attack/fight in the UK than a gun incident in the US

                              "In the UK, the rate of knife violence is approximately one in every 374 people victimized, compared with a rate of one in 750 people victimized by gun violence in the United States." from here, http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/1...or-knife-ban/#

                              Guess it's still occurring, found a june article
                              Last edited by doppelganger; 10-23-2015, 10:28 PM.

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