CWD Question

[M.E.B.]

I have asked this question several times over the yrs. On this site and others and have not recieved an answer.

I understand that CWD is caused by something called a prion. I understand that prion get into the soil and stays there indefinetely and basically can not be found or killed in the wild. They lie there until they infect the deer.

The game departments in other states attempt to wipe out entire herds of deer in affected counties. Do they plan on killing every deer in those counties until Hell freezes over?

[dustoffer]

I think the objective is to reduce populations enough that there is less and less deer-t0-deer infection. And, yes, the prions remain in the soil for quite some time. How long? I don't know but I'd bet there are some studies done by the wildlife disease folks that looked at this.

Here's one article from 2006--but no definitive answer here--

http://www.newswise.com/articles/prions-that-cause-cwd-remain-infectious-in-soils

[stykshooter]

I don't think that's what would happen but I believe if an area (breeder pens) can be considered contaminated & unfit for livestock

[DTala]

no one knows how long the prions remain able to infect.

[stickerpatch59]

maybe an airstrike with napalm would solve this problem.
I really have no idea, but I dought that pen raised deer are a hot bed for this problem.
btw, I have no intrest in hunting penned deer, just not my thing. but I won't demand that no one else does it either.

[M16]

It is estimated that they can last between 30 and 40 years in humans.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/06/researchers-make-surprising-discovery-about-spread-of-chronic-wasting-disease/#.VhWwctYrw04

[M.E.B.]

So as I stated it seems that the prions last a long long time. In the other states they attempt to wipe out the entire herd in a county. These are wild animals not penned deer.

There seems not to be an idea where the prions came from in these wild herds. So if CWD is found in all counties are they going to kill all the deer in the state which is what they are afraid of the disease doing any way?

[PondPopper]

I've read that if a animal dies of CWD, the body fluids soak into the soil along with the prions. Later when grass grows here, the prions are sucked up from the soil with the ground moisture into the grasses. Animals such as deer or elk who eat the grass are infected with CWD.
Sounds uncontrollable to me..

[M.E.B.]

I've read that if a animal dies of CWD, the body fluids soak into the soil along with the prions. Later when grass grows here, the prions are sucked up from the soil with the ground moisture into the grasses. Animals such as deer or elk who eat the grass are infected with CWD.
Sounds uncontrollable to me..

Bingo! So I do not understand why ALL the deer are killed. The object is to save the deer. With the disease some of the deer MAY die. With the disease and the annihilation ALL the deer die.

[Cuz]

Bingo! So I do not understand why ALL the deer are killed. The object is to save the deer. With the disease some of the deer MAY die. With the disease and the annihilation ALL the deer die.

They're killed, in part, in this breeder situation, because they "have" to to test for it. As for the herds being killed preventatively, in the wild...well, talk with an avid hunter in northern Colorado, for example. He'll tell you how just years ago the mule deer thrived in his area and killing one was basically a sure thing. And now, after cwd, you can literally walk the woods for days and not see one single mule deer track. He'll tell you to do whatever you must to stop cwd! And I agree with him

[icetrauma]

They're killed, in part, in this breeder situation, because they "have" to to test for it. As for the herds being killed preventatively, in the wild...well, talk with an avid hunter in northern Colorado, for example. He'll tell you how just years ago the mule deer thrived in his area and killing one was basically a sure thing. And now, after cwd, you can literally walk the woods for days and not see one single mule deer track. He'll tell you to do whatever you must to stop cwd! And I agree with him

I'll agree with him as well. The problem lies in breeders with deep pockets and mucho dinero invested, they are willing to gamble with CWD because they are financially invested in the penned deer. Even though they knew the games of the rules, they most likely, never thought this would happen.

[DJM]

So,is there any other way to tell if a deer has CWD,say in the advanced stages?How long does it take for them to die?How does it effect humans if you consume the meat of an infected deer?Does it affect other animals(other than deer or elk) that may eat the grass where one dies?

DJ

[stykshooter]

I really don't think TPWD & wildlife biologist wanna see the deer killed but this disease is long term problem. Hopefully with research someone can find a solution or cure someday

This short video may help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rc3_a-pXoo

As mentioned above it's been found in a Colorado moose in the wild

[DTala]

I'll agree with him as well. The problem lies in breeders with deep pockets and mucho dinero invested, they are willing to gamble with CWD because they are financially invested in the penned deer. Even though they knew the games of the rules, they most likely, never thought this would happen.

the Colorado problem has absolutely nothing to do with breeders/high fences. It has naturally spread from the Ft Collins area where infected deer were released by Co game and fish in the 60's....after they "invented" it.

[Buff]

They're killed, in part, in this breeder situation, because they "have" to to test for it. As for the herds being killed preventatively, in the wild...well, talk with an avid hunter in northern Colorado, for example. He'll tell you how just years ago the mule deer thrived in his area and killing one was basically a sure thing. And now, after cwd, you can literally walk the woods for days and not see one single mule deer track. He'll tell you to do whatever you must to stop cwd! And I agree with him

Im not sure where your hunting but I just came back from Craig CO and there were deer every where you looked