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    Clearing borders of acerage with map plane coordinates?

    Looking at getting a piece of land cleared around the borders.
    The current survey looks like it only has property line map coordinates (longitude/latitude). The survey says it was based on "State Plane Coordinate System". It was just surveyed like this a few months ago by the seller.

    I see no GPS coordinates for corner stakes, nor footage between stakes.

    Am I going to have to dig through the thick brush trying to find stakes (or have it surveyed differently), or can a good clearing/dozing company work off of this?

    Thanks

    #2
    You need to find and flag up the iron rods. Did you buy this property? Have the plat they should have given you?

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      #3
      I have a contract on the property right now.
      This is a portion of the survey showing what I am talking about.
      Attached Files

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        #4
        I'm pretty sure you can convert those Lat/Lon numbers to an 8 or 10 digit grid coordinate.

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          #5
          Those aren't Latitude / Longitude numbers. Those are bearing and distance numbers.

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            #6
            Originally posted by El Coop View Post
            Those aren't Latitude / Longitude numbers. Those are bearing and distance numbers.
            This. GPS still isn't accurate enough for boundaries.

            This sort of thing is commonly called a metes and bounds description. It's what is typically used when there's no plat. I.e. we're not talking about Lot 4, Block 3 of the Fancy Pants Subdivision of Awesome City. Start at the iron rod and east on a bearing of xx yy zz for AA feet thence south on a bearing of xx yy zz for BB feet and so on until you've described the entire boundary of the property.

            Do you have boundary fences? If so, the work you want will be much, much easier. Otherwise, you may need a surveyor to mark the property line intermittently.

            LWD

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              #7
              Originally posted by El Coop View Post
              Those aren't Latitude / Longitude numbers. Those are bearing and distance numbers.
              ^ Bingo.

              On your platt those 5/8 I.R. notes indicate they used a five eighths iron rod as a boundary marker. Can you get a utility locator or metal detector and find the corners?

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                #8
                If it was surveyed only a few months ago all the property corners should be flagged up pretty good so you should be able to find them if you are near the correct area. Unless the property is fenced I would recommend you have a surveyor come out and put some points on line (POL's) to show where the property line actually is between the actual corners. The company that did the original survey should be able to do this for an additional charge. It can be very difficult in a heavily wooded area to know exactly where you are without the proper equipment (survey GPS unit and or total station). Hope this helps.

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                  #9
                  The 305.11 is the feet between the 2 stakes.

                  Same with the 713.34

                  I think the FND 5/8 is the rod that was placed or is there.

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                    #10
                    We ran into a similar situation when we first bought our land. It had been surveyed and was staked with what looked like rebar, bit finding them in the dense undergrowth was near impossible. We called the original surveyor and he came out and flagged the stakes with orange ribbon for a small fee. Some of our stakes were as far as a half mile apart, so we had him come back out later and place more stakes in between the others so we could stay on line while clearing the fence rows. I don't know if this will help you or not, but it sure helped us to have the extra stakes put in before trying to flag the path we wanted the dozer to clear.

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                      #11
                      I will probably have the surveyors come back out.

                      Question:
                      On the bearings there is a letter before and after them.
                      Like S & E and S & W. The other borders start with an N.
                      What does the first letter stand for? South?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by El Coop View Post
                        Those aren't Latitude / Longitude numbers. Those are bearing and distance numbers.
                        This^^

                        Look up metes and bounds surveying

                        That line is 69.*** deg (approx 70 degrees) west of south from the last intersection/point and 305.xx feet in that direction. Or approx 8:00 on a clock face from last spot. Each time, to next point you are back at the center of the clock face
                        relative to the next point. i.e.: N 20deg* E 150'...would be 20 degrees to the right of 12:00 for a distance of 150'

                        Edit: went back and looked at the pic.
                        The FND 5/8 I.R (find iron rod) at the right of the pic is the first "clock face" then 305' towards "8:00"..>>>.69.*** degrees west of south


                        And if you want to use GPS coords use UTM. NOT LAT/LONG !!!
                        Google'n UTM would be worth your time.
                        Last edited by Philip-TX; 09-08-2015, 07:56 PM.

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                          #13
                          Pic=1000 words

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                            #14
                            Seeing the pics helps.
                            One of the other coordinates reads N 21*** W 713.46'

                            So it is 713.46 feet, 21* to the west side of North to the next marker. In other words about 11 oclock, 713.46 feet.
                            Correct?

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                              #15
                              Yep, work your way around the perimeter....clockwise

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