Spinoff of tip thread

[Black Ice]

First the cheese and sonic and now this

[CaptainDave]

Didn't want to derail (yea right) the other thread.

Why is the tip based on the total amount of the ticket?

Let's say we eat dinner at Place A and the total bill comes to $30. That's an appetizer, drinks, and 2 entrees. I tip $6 because that's 20%.

The next night, we eat dinner at Place B and the total bill comes to $100. Appetizer, drinks, 2 entrees. Going by the 20% rule, the tip would be $20.

If the meal layout was exactly the same, and the waitress did no more work than the first, why should the tip be higher?

This is an honest question.

That is the problem with your question. In a typical situation, Place B will have a much higher level of service as compared to Place A. It's like comparing a Prime steakhouse to Outback. I'm not saying it never happens, but a place that's roughly $50 per person on average will have better service than a place that is $15 per person.

As someone mentioned, pace has a lot to do with it. Most high-end places seat based on reservations. They don't need nearly as much table turnover. A meal at a high-end restaurant spans over a couple of hours.

For example, at the nice place the waiter/waitress will introduce themselves and spend at least the first 5 minutes at your table talking about the place, chef specials, off menu items, etc. At an average place, the waiter will walk up, say my name is ***, and then say, what would you like to drink? Oh and I can take your order too if you are ready.

[jeepntx]

Yea, not quite.

Like I said above, I ALWAYS tip 20-25%, even for less than average service. If the service was above and beyond, they get tipped more. So not exactly a penny pincher.

This wasn't a thread on how to get out of tipping. Just an honest question that a coworker and I were discussing and I was just getting opinions.

[Charles]

If the "meal layout" is the same why would you even go to "Place B"?

[hellbndr23]

Yalls comments of fancier place makes sense, but think normal place expensive food. Sushi for example. We got to Ichibon. They bring the Sushi as soon as it's ready no matter if ur eating soup or salad. 2 people can do $80 pretty easy. In and out sometimes quicker than Chili's.

Do you still tip 20%?

[cehorn]

And why is it 20%? It used to always be 15% and magically for no reason I can think of the standard is now 20%. In my opinion this goes more with the other threads where everyone is asking for tips now. I've never been able to get a good explanation on why standard tip is now 20% instead of 15%. The only reason I have ever been given is it just costs more/inflation. The cost of the food went up due to inflation so the waitor got a raise due to the cost of food going up so why the additional 5%?

[JES]

And why is it 20%? It used to always be 15% and magically for no reason I can think of the standard is now 20%. In my opinion this goes more with the other threads where everyone is asking for tips now. I've never been able to get a good explanation on why standard tip is now 20% instead of 15%. The only reason I have ever been given is it just costs more/inflation. The cost of the food went up due to inflation so the waitor got a raise due to the cost of food going up so why the additional 5%?

Serious question, how old are you?

I'm only 43 and 20% has been the standard tip rate as long as I can recall...

[jusamb82]

Whoa, the title got me. I've never had one spin off the tip, but...

That's funny right there

[MySRT8U]

And why is it 20%? It used to always be 15% and magically for no reason I can think of the standard is now 20%. In my opinion this goes more with the other threads where everyone is asking for tips now. I've never been able to get a good explanation on why standard tip is now 20% instead of 15%. The only reason I have ever been given is it just costs more/inflation. The cost of the food went up due to inflation so the waitor got a raise due to the cost of food going up so why the additional 5%?

At the end of the night they have to tip out 3% of their total sales. 1% to the bussers, hostesses, and bar. So if you tip 15%, they only keep 12% of that.

[Crazy Horse]

are you calculating tip out?

alot of those fancier places also require the server to tip out a percentage to the bar & bus boys from their tips unlike some of the cheaper joints...

[RiverRat1]

Why not tip according to the level of service? It shouldn't matter where you're at or how much you're spending. What should matter is how well you're taken care of and how much the persons pay is already built into the price you're paying. For instance, do you tip a car salesman? why not?

[Stuck]

Whoa, the title got me. I've never had one spin off the tip, but...

LMFAO! I was kind of 1/2 paying attention to this thread as I was reading it but had to scroll back to the title.

[Drewboy22]

Why not tip according to the level of service? It shouldn't matter where you're at or how much you're spending. What should matter is how well you're taken care of and how much the persons pay is already built into the price you're paying. For instance, do you tip a car salesman? why not?

I don't think those are equal in comparison. A waiter does not get commission off of my meal, except for my tip. So, I guess I do??? One would have to think that all the dealers cost are being covered somehow in the price of the car, so I guess you are tipping just don't know about it...

As for level of service - You get better service at Place B. Each waiter has less tables, so more time for you. When I have peeked at the seating chart at Fridays or 54th street there are usually 6-10 tables per waiter. At Place B each waiter may have 5 max on a busy night.

[hellbndr23]

I changed from 15 to 20 on good service because of the easier math. 1 for 5.

[Kmart49]

Here's one for you. As a part of our club membership we get 50% off of food (food only, not the drinks) when dining. They automatically add the 20% tip on the check. So let's say the family goes to the club to eat, we all have water (to make this simple for the math challenged) and the total bill, before discount, is $100. They apply the discount at 50% so the net check $50. Then they add the tip at 20% of FULL PRICE, or $20! I hate it when the tip is automatically added. Yes, I know why they do it.

ClubCorp? If so, you forgot to mention that you had to pay $50/month just to get 50% off your food!