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"Point your finger and the other fingers point back at you", is something I always heard!
NOBODY and I mean NOBODY can make things better except yourself.Not your parents, not your pastor, not your sibling and dang sure not some "right or left" winged politician that does not give a dogs arse about you or I.
"If it is to be, it is up to me.............period!" And that is how WE live in my home..........no excuses or whining allowed..............pretty much what American rugged individualism was built on!
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Originally posted by Landrover View PostHum...........oddly............I was raised the same way. So obviously things have changed a ton since my time in the 70's and early 80's...........guess it comes down to not taking responsibility!
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I blame a lot of it on the media and us dummies that watch all the horrow stories. Good things don't get your attention. We are the problem tuning into this stuff. How many threads on TBH show good stuff versus bad? If it's good the thread title says something negative to get your attention. Saw a thread the last few days that said don't do business with so and so. He was bragging on him but that was the thread title. Carry on!Last edited by doghouse; 06-13-2015, 06:16 PM.
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By the time kids are old enough to make decisions that really count, they get nearly all of their values from entertainment media, social media, and their peers. If "everyone" is doing it and they see it (whatever it is) 24/7 on TV, Facebook, etc., it must be OK. If we, as a society, allow our kids' brains to be fed garbage 24/7, we shouldn't be surprised with the outcome.
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Originally posted by Landrover View Post"Point your finger and the other fingers point back at you", is something I always heard!
NOBODY and I mean NOBODY can make things better except yourself.Not your parents, not your pastor, not your sibling and dang sure not some "right or left" winged politician that does not give a dogs arse about you or I.
"If it is to be, it is up to me.............period!" And that is how WE live in my home..........no excuses or whining allowed..............pretty much what American rugged individualism was built on!
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Originally posted by DaveS903 View PostBy the time kids are old enough to make decisions that really count, they get nearly all of their values from entertainment media, social media, and their peers. If "everyone" is doing it and they see it (whatever it is) 24/7 on TV, Facebook, etc., it must be OK. If we, as a society, allow our kids' brains to be fed garbage 24/7, we shouldn't be surprised with the outcome.
That's kinda where I was going with my post above. And how on earth can we shield our kids nowadays from EVERYTHING? About the only way I see how is to go all "Castaway" Robinson Crusoe!
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Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View PostHow things have change in the last 60 odd years… Maybe it’s just how I was brung up, but things sure have changed. And I don’t mean all the technology, I mean people and how they think and behave.
I can remember acting out as a child and one of my dad’s friends whapping my backside a good lick cause dad was on the other side of the room and couldn’t reach me..
I can remember my dad walking me back to the store and laying the belt to my backside every time my foot hit the ground, because I took a candy bar without paying.. making me pay double and apologize…
I can remember sassing a teacher at school, and getting 5 licks with the paddle, then getting another whipping when dad got home.
I can remember dad and some of his friends taking a neighbor man out in the alley and whipping him until he couldn’t stand because he beat his wife. I can remember my dad and mom buying groceries for that man’s wife when we were just barely getting by, because he drank up his paycheck..
I can remember a fellow calling a friend of my dad’s an SOB and a liar, and I can remember that man lying in a pool of his own blood from the beating he got. AS my dad explained it… he shouldn’t have called him a liar, a man is only as good as his word and that man would go hungry before he’d lie or go back on his word. And you never call someone an SOB unless you want to fight… you not only insult him… you insult his mother… Never let a man insult your mom, your sister, your wife or another good woman..
Back then if you hung out in the garages and workingman places you heard plenty of cussing.. But you never heard anyone disrespect another fellow without there was a fight..wouldcould do about it.
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What the problem boils down to is Parents wanting to be their kids "friends" versus being the parent. They try to make things easy by giving in and not putting their foot down. I know with my kiddo she is respectful, courteous and treats others with respect. She respects the laws and even goes as far as "policing" her friends when they get out of line. She's only 9 year's old.
I work in law enforcement and I'm assigned to Juvenile. I see it every **** day. Kid's acting up in the lobby the parent tells them once to stop. The kid just looks at them and laughs and keeps being loud and acting up. Parent turns to someone in the lobby and says, "I just can't seem to get them to listen to me." THEN, I get up and tell the kid to sit their *** down and shut up that they are being too loud, then the parents have the nerve to confront me about "disciplining" their child. That's when I always pop off with, "Well if you'd do your job as a parent I wouldn't have to say anything to them and you wouldn't be here waiting to see your kid's Probation Officer."
Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View PostOnly the degree... at 66 years of age it isn't difficult to see the difference just in my lifetime.
Parents, and other adults once took pride in well behaved children...
now....
not so much..
And yes, I'm pretty sure my Great, great, great grandpa fussed about silly laws.. The difference is the degree and the respect for himself and others. Today folks confuse Me'ism with respect.. Things that would have got you a butt whipping when I was young have become the accepted norm today.
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Couldn't agree more. I knew that if I got in trouble at school I would have to answer to the principal who whooped me with a paddle. Then mom got there to pick me up and I got swatted on the back of the legs. Then at 5pm when dad got home from work I had to tell him what happened then either go get a belt or a switch.
Then you have these **** "parents" if you can call them that who don't believe in spankings and if you do spank your child you get the cops called on you. I love going to these calls. As long as the parent didn't go overboard I make sure to tell the kid that she's doing it for the betterment of your future so it's allowed. You'd be surprised how a kids attitude will take a 180 when you tell them spanking's ARE legal. Just so many are hesitant cause of the uproar it causes with those who don't believe in spankings.
Another issue, Kid's Raising Kid's is another problem with today's children. You have kids having babied when they haven't even been done being raised themselves.
Originally posted by db@100 View PostThey need to put the three "P"'s back in school.
The Prayer,
The Pledge,
The Paddle
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javi i agree with you,,, and many of the others,,, but i can tell you the point when it started falling apart,,, and those of us who want to can start making the change,, and it will probably take as long to fix as it was to mess up.....
it started the day they kicked God out of school,,, and we as parents do often and frequently fail to be parents and not friends,,, and i have had a lot of people ask me why my kids behaved and never talked back,, the answer was always a simple,, "i will never be my children's friend i will always be their dad"....
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A question got me to thinking...
Originally posted by xman59 View Postjavi i agree with you,,, and many of the others,,, but i can tell you the point when it started falling apart,,, and those of us who want to can start making the change,, and it will probably take as long to fix as it was to mess up.....
it started the day they kicked God out of school,,, and we as parents do often and frequently fail to be parents and not friends,,, and i have had a lot of people ask me why my kids behaved and never talked back,, the answer was always a simple,, "i will never be my children's friend i will always be their dad"....
It started the day the courts kicked God out of school, homes, and everyday life.Last edited by Rotney; 06-13-2015, 07:19 PM.
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