People were getting up and preaching that the amendment "frightened" cops - "so you go into a Walmart and there's 30-40 people carrying guns - how do you know who's licensed???!!!!!!!!" ... that kind of hysteria. Huffines really screwed things up. We didn't NEED that amendment - the protection against unjustified stops was ALREADY established in the courts in a couple of recent cases. That's why they removed the Dutton amendment in the first place; it simply repeated existing law. Then the bill was ready for final voting (which it would have passed easily) and the governor's pen. But that idiot Huffines stuck his version of Dutton back on there, which required it to go back through debate and voting. It got to the point of voting on concurrence (a simple yes/no vote), and it failed. 38 Republicans who originally supported the bill voted against it this time. Now it has to go to conference committee, finish there, then come back out for ANOTHER vote. It's extremely unlikely it will survive that process before the legislature runs out of time (which is the whole idea). I'm very, very disappointed in how this whole thing works. Just nauseating sometimes.
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Above the waist, legal.Originally posted by fishingsetx View PostSo flashing is legal now?
Sure going to make hanging out on the beach during spring break or Galveston during Mardi gras a whole lot more interesting!
Oh wait, you were talking about handguns...........
Below...not so much.
So flash away (ladies).
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It is according to what you call "retention".Originally posted by Hamshire View Post
A holster? Yes and only on belt or shoulder holster.
Security level holster? No.Comment
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WEll, looks like I may be voting against some GOPers come election time if this doesn't pass. I'll vote Libertarian party.Comment
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Originally posted by tvc184 View Post
I really gotta watch my wording with you. I certainly meant retention as you have stated. Thanks for clarifying for the rest of the guys.
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Smoke and mirrors.Comment
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Voters need to remember stuff like this come reelection time!Comment
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Why are people for open carry so hell bent on police officers not being able to ask to verify their license? Is it not worth having open carry passed? I have no problem showing my credentials. You don't want to show em, don't open carry. This thing might die over something. So dumb. It's never been is close, just it through and change the law later.Comment
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By the way... I noticed that one of our local reps, J.D. Sheffield (Coryell, Hamilton, Gatesville, etc.) voted "nay" on the concurrence vote that would have saved the bill. He was one of the original co-authors. He will hear from me. Here's the tally:
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Ever heard of the 4th Amendment? This isn't Nazi Germany, where the police can walk up to you any time, any place, with no reason, and demand "papers, please."Originally posted by rossivey View PostComment
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This is far from Germany. The reason is the gun. I'm fine with it. I have nothing to hide. Not everyone carrying openly is gonna get stopped by every police officer. They do have other things to do. Sure there'll be some that are jackasses about it but they won't out weigh the ones that will just nod as you walk by.Originally posted by Ruark View PostComment
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It has happened several times. Bad people do not care that you have a gun, some of them even know that they can take it from you if you want. Just because people see you have a gun, is not going to dissuade ALL of them. Many of these people have been around people with guns tucked in their waistbands their whole life...it doesn't scare them.Originally posted by fishingsetx View PostShow me where this has happened in the other 44 states that have open carry!
There was a news story not too long ago about someone picking up some kind of pipe in wal-mart and bashing an OCer over the head to take his gun.
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