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    #61
    this is a bad deal all around. There's no justification for what Routh did, but there's also no doubt he was suffering from PTSD as a result of serving the iraq war.

    he was in the VA hospital, and they discharged him, knowing he was in bad shape. The entire thing is just sad.

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      #62
      Originally posted by kyle1974 View Post
      this is a bad deal all around. There's no justification for what Routh did, but there's also no doubt he was suffering from PTSD as a result of serving the iraq war.

      he was in the VA hospital, and they discharged him, knowing he was in bad shape. The entire thing is just sad.
      He was disturbed from the get go best I can tell & never should have been allowed to enlist...my understanding is he did some time on the clean up from the nasty tsunami & left an imprint on his fragile state?? Nothing from combat sent him over the edge.

      Really doesn't matter...I still think he was off the hamster wheel & should spend his eternity in concrete & steel bars.

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        #63
        Please excuse my ignorance as I've been working out of town but is this a military trial or civilian?

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          #64
          They are fighting for a life sentence...Im ok with that. Once he is in prison put him in GENPOP and his death sentence would be served within a day or two.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Artos View Post
            He was disturbed from the get go best I can tell & never should have been allowed to enlist...my understanding is he did some time on the clean up from the nasty tsunami & left an imprint on his fragile state?? Nothing from combat sent him over the edge.

            Really doesn't matter...I still think he was off the hamster wheel & should spend his eternity in concrete & steel bars.
            He didn't have ptsd and he never set foot on the clean up. http://warfighternews.com/2015/02/10...-untold-story/

            It's all covered here.

            Since most don't want to click the link i'll bullet point from the article here.
            • It was during CAX, when the two Marines were spending every moment together as “Battle Buddies” that Pawloski finally noticed something was odd about Routh. “Eddie was easily pissy, he took everything too personal. I mean, I spent a lot of time with him, he really seemed like a good dude. But, he had that quirk.” Pawloski reported.

            • It is important to realize that Eddie Ray Routh never experienced combat. According to the American Psychology Association “There is now accumulating evidence that suggests that posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is linked to combat experiences.”

            • “Routh wasn’t needed. We had a few armorers and he was the only one we could spare.” After a couple months, Routh returned to CLB-8 at Camp Fallujah. “This is where I would like to set the record straight” Pawloski said ” Routh hated Muslims. He talked to me about his experiences at the prison and how he liked beating them with batons and didn’t sympathize with them. He really seemed like normal goofy Routh.”
            • One day in the armory, Pawloski witnessed Routh almost beat another Marine to death. Pawloski said “Some of the guys were teasing Routh. They had posted ‘WANTED’ pictures of him with a rainbow flag. It was a harmless joke and he ****ing snapped.” Routh selected one of the Marines in the armory and began pummeling his face until he was bleeding severely. Pawloski said “We had to break it up. He was out of control.” However, this was not an isolated incident. Routh had already shown a history of this “quirk” where he would snap. Pawloski reported “he would lash out like a ****ing wild animal.” It was only a couple weeks later when Pawloski himself would become another victim of Routh’s uncontrollable rage. Pawloski reported “I was walking back into the armory and heard something funny, so I was laughing on my way in. Out of nowhere, Routh body slammed me. I was knocked unconscious because Routh hit my head on the steel work bench when he threw me down. I woke up convulsing.” Pawloski reported that the incident gave him a Traumatic Brain Injury.
            • Reports have circulated that Routh was part of a “body recovery” mission and that this is where his “PTSD” had developed, this however has been found to be false. Stokes reported “Routh never left the ship. He was the armorer, why would he leave the ship?”

            • “We were down at the lake. We’d been going down there since he was nine years old, hunting and fishing. We would go there every weekend if we could get away with it. It was all good but I don’t know, something triggered him and he was telling me he was Dracula, that he was a vampire and wanted to suck people’s blood.” This incident (and Routh’s history of aggressive behavior) is an indication of a psychotic disorder. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (also known as the DSM-IV-TR), the diagnostic standard for mental health professionals in the United States, describes several mental disorders that Routh could have been diagnosed with. Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia are at the top of the list, based on Routh’s behavior. It is important to realize that Routh’s behavior was not an indication of PTSD.


            It gets worse as the article goes on. It's a good read about mental issues to be completely honest.

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              #66
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                #67
                Guess the guy really is bat **** crazy.

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                  #68
                  My cousin who was in Iraq during the invasion sent me the link Smell the Glove posted above. If you have time read the whole article, very informative. Guy seemed disturbed from the word go, PTSD is just a convenient excuse.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by kyle1974 View Post
                    this is a bad deal all around. There's no justification for what Routh did, but there's also no doubt he was suffering from PTSD as a result of serving the iraq war.

                    he was in the VA hospital, and they discharged him, knowing he was in bad shape. The entire thing is just sad.
                    He did not see combat!!! His PTSD is such a excuse and harped on by the liberal media.

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                      #70
                      Yeah, I heard he never saw combat either.

                      But I can't help to question's Kyle's judgment. If he knew this guy was nuts, why go to a gun range with him???

                      I was Alpine shooting range a few weeks ago. I was there for 30 mins when the guy next to me started talking. He reeked of alcohol and was talking crazy about killing his neighbor dog with his silenced .22 (which he did have. He also had one on the most quietest .308 too). He also was a 'genius' but could only read on a 2nd grade level due to being dyslexic. I got my crap, informed the RSO, and left. Wasted time and money but I figured better safe than sorry.

                      The time before that, a guy next to me shot his AK up in the ceiling above ours heads. I politely asked for a refund and left.

                      Point is, on two different occasions, I witnessed something that was unsafe and I left.

                      Kyle had all these red flags poppin up.

                      Regardless, I hope this dude gets what he has coming.

                      RIP CK

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                        #71
                        Lawnchairs,smokers fired up,beer coolers,Chris Kyles infantry units' flag flying and a Public Hanging!!!

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Blood Trail View Post
                          Yeah, I heard he never saw combat either.

                          But I can't help to question's Kyle's judgment. If he knew this guy was nuts, why go to a gun range with him???

                          I was Alpine shooting range a few weeks ago. I was there for 30 mins when the guy next to me started talking. He reeked of alcohol and was talking crazy about killing his neighbor dog with his silenced .22 (which he did have. He also had one on the most quietest .308 too). He also was a 'genius' but could only read on a 2nd grade level due to being dyslexic. I got my crap, informed the RSO, and left. Wasted time and money but I figured better safe than sorry.

                          The time before that, a guy next to me shot his AK up in the ceiling above ours heads. I politely asked for a refund and left.

                          Point is, on two different occasions, I witnessed something that was unsafe and I left.

                          Kyle had all these red flags poppin up.

                          Regardless, I hope this dude gets what he has coming.

                          RIP CK

                          I believe that this was his first encounter with him, no? Or if it wasnt his first time, on the trip over is where he figured out that the "guy was nuts" in his text to littlefield, then he was later shot in the back while at the gun range.

                          Your gun range experience is interesting, I havent had any experience like that and I hope to never have any, but while at the gun range last time, (Outdoor gun range) I noticed a bullet hole through one of the barriers from one station to the next and began to think, I know understand gun safety, what about the guy next to me???

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                            #73
                            Sometimes I just can't wrap my head around such sad and senseless tragedies...

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                              #74
                              If the Defendant doesn't receive fair and impartial counsel then there is a definitive reason to overturn the verdict and start the fiasco all over again costing even more taxpayer money and more importantly the revictimization of the surviving family of the victims in the case. Let him defend him to conviction so there won't be another trial....case permanently closed so surviving family can have true closure and time to heal...

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by TSFiredog View Post
                                ^^^^^^ I think the same thing!
                                I'm thinking the exact same thing more to this story than let out !!!!

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