String Jumpin Deer

[old killer]

I have seen does get so flat at the sound of a bow that an arrow entered and exited on the same side of the spine.
When a deer is out past 50 yards their reaction is one of curiosity and look up for the sound. Thirty five yards and in they only want to escape from sound that is close enough to create alarm.

[Wac M Trac M]

My rule of thumb for hill country ninja deer.
When they are relaxed you aim for the heart. When they are alert you aim 4inches below the hairline. This works in Wimberley.

[Draco]

This is part of why I shoot a heavy arrow. I don't think the bow is that much quieter. I think it is the pitch difference. From high pitch crack to a low pitch.

You may be right but there is definitely a difference as I hardly ever have a problem and my bow shoots only around 180 fps.

[courtatlawjudge]

They are fast. Don't know what it is. Has anybody else noticed a difference in the broadhead versus the amount of "string" jumping. I can shoot slicktrick magnums and get very little. I screw on the grizztricks, and deer are gone before they get there. I finally went down range and hid behind a wall. Had my dad shoot both past me. That slicktrick made very little noise. Grizztrick sounded like a fighter jet screaming in on me. I have decided that because no arrow breaks the sound barrier, they aren't ducking the "string", but instead ducking the sound of some of those missles we send their way. Anybody else notice that some broadheads make a lot less noise going down range? Bet the same is true of certain fletching materials but haven't studied that.

[Rchr]

I know a couple of friends of mine & I are of the same opinion. We have come to the conclusion that most of the deer that have jumped the string on us have been at 20 yrd shots or under. We now place our stands at 25 yds to 30 yds.

[flywise]

I know a couple of friends of mine & I are of the same opinion. We have come to the conclusion that most of the deer that have jumped the string on us have been at 20 yrd shots or under. We now place our stands at 25 yds to 30 yds.

You should try 5-10, only way to miss is for the shooter to take a bad shot

[enewman]

They are fast. Don't know what it is. Has anybody else noticed a difference in the broadhead versus the amount of "string" jumping. I can shoot slicktrick magnums and get very little. I screw on the grizztricks, and deer are gone before they get there. I finally went down range and hid behind a wall. Had my dad shoot both past me. That slicktrick made very little noise. Grizztrick sounded like a fighter jet screaming in on me. I have decided that because no arrow breaks the sound barrier, they aren't ducking the "string", but instead ducking the sound of some of those missles we send their way. Anybody else notice that some broadheads make a lot less noise going down range? Bet the same is true of certain fletching materials but haven't studied that.

This is always a big talk. People say it doesnt matter. Well I'm with you. I shoot non vented broadheads just for the same reason your talking about.

[flywise]

They are fast. Don't know what it is. Has anybody else noticed a difference in the broadhead versus the amount of "string" jumping. I can shoot slicktrick magnums and get very little. I screw on the grizztricks, and deer are gone before they get there. I finally went down range and hid behind a wall. Had my dad shoot both past me. That slicktrick made very little noise. Grizztrick sounded like a fighter jet screaming in on me. I have decided that because no arrow breaks the sound barrier, they aren't ducking the "string", but instead ducking the sound of some of those missles we send their way. Anybody else notice that some broadheads make a lot less noise going down range? Bet the same is true of certain fletching materials but haven't studied that.

I dont think there is any chance the deer are ducking the sound of the arrow.
They are survivailst that react to any sound. Slap your hands togrther and they will hit the dirt, crack a branch and they duck. They are simply very quick to react to noise because they have to since they are prey 24/7 their entire lives.
A noise closer to them will cause a faster no questions asked reaction. A noise 40-50 yds away and they flintch/ maybe drop a little or even alot but most times not near as much as that closer sound reaction.
Hunt deer with a modern bow inside 15 yds and i really cant see how a person can miss.

[Rchr]

You should try 5-10, only way to miss is for the shooter to take a bad shot

I actually have taken 2 deer that way and yea it was exiting but I still prefer my shots between 25-30. I don't mind the longer shots.

[Raypo]

I'm also criticized for a speed set up, but I perfer having flexibility. 125-100 grain tip, heavy or light arrow I can choose whatever with a "speed set-up".

Hill Country deer are jumpy for sure, and possible a tad more wirey than normal. In my opinion it's all about the atmosphere. If your in a pop-up in the hill country or ground hunting the deer is already on edge, and everything makes them jump. As opposed to hunting 20ft in a tree were a deer is merely walking through the woods.

[RutnBuk]

Heres my experience with Hill country deer jumping the string. My first deer I took a shot at was a big doe at about 10 yards. My bow wasnt real fast, this was back in 1998, but it was good enough. I let the arrow fly and to my surprise a deer dropped. NOT the deer I was aiming at. A little fawn was standing (facing toward me with head down) right behind the big doe. When the doe dropped the arrow went over her and straight into the spine of the fawn. Fawn dropped and was making a terrible screaming noise. It was kicking around with front feet and I tried to put another arrow in fawn but it was moving to much and I didnt have a knife so I had to hit it over the head with a big rock. This was my first deer with a bow and I was 13. I didnt bow hunt again till I was 26 because of this.

[flywise]

If hill country deer are so much faster than the rest of the deer in the country i guess im going to have a pretty easy time of it when i go somewhere else.

IT AINT THE DEER!!!! Its YOU!!!

[bloodtrailer28]

I dont think there is any chance the deer are ducking the sound of the arrow.
They are survivailst that react to any sound. Slap your hands togrther and they will hit the dirt, crack a branch and they duck. They are simply very quick to react to noise because they have to since they are prey 24/7 their entire lives.
A noise closer to them will cause a faster no questions asked reaction. A noise 40-50 yds away and they flintch/ maybe drop a little or even alot but most times not near as much as that closer sound reaction.
Hunt deer with a modern bow inside 15 yds and i really cant see how a person can miss.

They will duck an arrow from that distance. I have a few videos from this year that shows how much they can duck at that distance. I would have never thought it till i started video taping my hunts. All my shots were from 15-20. I didnt miss but hit some high.

[flywise]

They will duck an arrow from that distance. I have a few videos from this year that shows how much they can duck at that distance. I would have never thought it till i started video taping my hunts. All my shots were from 15-20. I didnt miss but hit some high.

Yes, they will duck, but with a modern bow it will be well after the arrow has passed through them.
Been hunting with a bow since 1986 ( best i can remember) and never missed a solid double lung inside 20 yds and no bow i have ever shot would be considered fast.
It a hunter is hitting high, or missing high with a modern bow over 200 fps they are doing so because the hunter is either flintching, or simply aiming to high or shooting at a deer to far away.

I shoot all my deer these days inside 15 yds..... Most likely inside 10 yds. No deer on the planet it going to duck that

[bloodtrailer28]

Yes, they will duck, but with a modern bow it will be well after the arrow has passed through them.
Been hunting with a bow since 1986 ( best i can remember) and never missed a solid double lung inside 20 yds and no bow i have ever shot would be considered fast.
It a hunter is hitting high, or missing high with a modern bow over 200 fps they are doing so because the hunter is either flintching, or simply aiming to high or shooting at a deer to far away.

I shoot all my deer these days inside 15 yds..... Most likely inside 10 yds. No deer on the planet it going to duck that

Just gona tell you ...your wrong got a few videos for evidence as well. And that sure is a broad brush your painting with saying its the hunter when you really have no clue to what happened or the situation. I aim for the heart pretty much every time and have had some drop where i hit them double lung and one was even spined. Have video of every one of them and you can watch the drop well before the arrow hits them.