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    #16
    Originally posted by trophy8 View Post
    Its because youre a girl and shoot sissy bows!!
    I'd have to agree with this assessment!

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      #17
      Basically the only deer i have ever bow hunted are central/ hill country deer.
      Before going trad 6 years ago i hunted with a 1992 PSE MAURADER.
      Neither fast or quite. But some how i have been able to double lung every deer i ever shot at inside 20 yds. Either elevated or from the ground. Only deer i ever missed high that i can recall since 1986 when i started bow hunting were the few deer i shot at past 25 yds.
      So im guessing its a distance to target phenomenon

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        #18
        I spent much of the season trying to help a kid get his first bow kill. Very frustrating. He is pulling 40 pounds and shoots really well. Problem is every deer ninjas out of the way. His bow is quiet and we only shoot inside 15 yards. I think the arrow is just too slow as I have never had that problem at 70pds. Any ideas on how to help him. Below video is one of his shots.https://vimeo.com/118407651

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          #19
          I've been shooting a Monster for the last few years. Should be high 290's fps. Shot AT a very nervous hill country doe (I had just shot the other one she was with) at 16 yards. She dropped and the arrow went over her back by a good 6". At 16 yards.

          Shot at a very calm buck in South Texas this year at 23 yards. For no apparent reason, he dropped and ran off with the arrow hanging out of his backstrap. He was seen again two weeks later chasing does.

          Shot another buck down south this year at 26 yards. He too dropped a little at the shot, but I still got a double lung although the hit was about 4" higher than where I wanted.

          For the record I always aim at the top of the heart. In my opinion I will have to agree with Jason and give hill country deer the nod on quickness. Suckers are quick!

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            #20
            Great topic! I was just thinking about this alot since I had 2 does duck this past season and also the season before. I hunt Burleson County....not the hill country but jumpy does none the less. These were all at a feeder or food plot.

            I shoot a Bowtech General (with new limbs). Its not a fast bow and with my setup (425gr arrow) its around 265~270ish.

            So I'm gonna lighten up my arrow and try to hunt more trails leading to the feeder....seems to me like they are less jumpy when they are on a trail than at a feeder. Might even buy a new faster bow.

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              #21
              The first doe to jump me was in the Junction area. Standing broadside, looking away from me, at 18yds. It wasn't even close. I would prefer to shoot hill country does at 60 yds than 25 yds. Their reaction is totally different.

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                #22
                I've started shooting below them and let them drop into it

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                  #23
                  I stand in awe of the people that make those 50 and 60 yd shots on Texas whitetails. For all the reasons listed above I wont shoot over 30. My farthest to date is 25 yds , standing broadside. I still hit him a little high and back. Luckily it got liver and I was able to track him down. I shoot a z7 extreme at about 275.

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                    #24
                    I think if everyone were to video tape all of their shots it would surprise all the ones who say their deer don't jump strings. I believe it all comes down to how relaxed the deer is which determines not if the deer moves upon release BUT to what degree. It asked me as to some of the matrix moves they make. They do it just as much (if not more) with crossbows.
                    Last edited by ted_kennedys_liver; 02-01-2015, 03:20 PM.

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                      #25
                      I agree with berretta man! Ive bow hunted for over 10 years now and have zero confidence on a live deer past 30 yards. I practice out to 80 for fun, but dang, 30 yards seems so far in the woods. I like them to be 20 yards or less, haven't had any major problems at that distance. I too prefer to make the shot on a walking deer, and usually do so hunting trails. My issues have actually come from hitting too low and slightly back, though thankfully I haven't lost one yet.

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                        #26
                        I almost never have a problem when shooting my long bow. It is whisper quiet but also more of a natural sound. Even the quiet compounds make a noise that isn't a natural sound and I think that can make a difference.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by flywise View Post
                          Basically the only deer i have ever bow hunted are central/ hill country deer.

                          Before going trad 6 years ago i hunted with a 1992 PSE MAURADER.

                          Neither fast or quite. But some how i have been able to double lung every deer i ever shot at inside 20 yds. Either elevated or from the ground. Only deer i ever missed high that i can recall since 1986 when i started bow hunting were the few deer i shot at past 25 yds.

                          So im guessing its a distance to target phenomenon
                          I will not shoot at a whitetail past 25.

                          Originally posted by ted_kennedys_liver View Post
                          I think if everyone were to video tape all of their shots it would surprise all the ones who say their deer don't jump strings. I believe it all comes down to how relaxed the deer is which determines not if the deer moves upon release BUT to what degree. It asked me as to some of the matrix moves they make. They do it just as much (if not more) with crossbows.
                          I have payed close attention over the years and I was talking about relaxed, tail twitching, totally care free hill country does .

                          Originally posted by Draco View Post
                          I almost never have a problem when shooting my long bow. It is whisper quiet but also more of a natural sound. Even the quiet compounds make a noise that isn't a natural sound and I think that can make a difference.

                          Exactly. You can't get a lot to understand that. The pitch of the noise from a properly set up Trad bow is a much softer thud than that made by even a quiet compound. Apples to Oranges.

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                            #28
                            If you think hill country deer have ninja skills you should hunt Starr county deer. They make hill country deer seem calm and slow.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Draco View Post
                              I almost never have a problem when shooting my long bow. It is whisper quiet but also more of a natural sound. Even the quiet compounds make a noise that isn't a natural sound and I think that can make a difference.
                              This is part of why I shoot a heavy arrow. I don't think the bow is that much quieter. I think it is the pitch difference. From high pitch crack to a low pitch.

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                                #30
                                The spike I shot this year never even flinched until the arrow hit him... Shane missed a doe during January because she ducked and spun so hard she almost hit the ground. Shaved hair off the top of her shoulders. He has it on video and it was crazy...

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