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    #76
    Originally posted by DRT View Post
    Fake vid or fake occurrence or whatever. If you carry you need to know now if you can and cannot act accordingly should you ever need to. If not then you should leave your gun at home because it is only a weapon you will be killed with. I know I would rather have on my headstone "He died because he had a smaller gun with less ammo and less training." than "He never fired a shot and died cowering in the corner.".
    My son-in-law, an assistant chief of police in a large AL city gave me this advice about a year ago.

    Start carrying your plastic and your gun and advise every other law abiding citizen you know to to likewise. I rarely carried before, but now I don't even walk out of the house without being armed and always have a weapon on hand in the house. Sometimes it pays to listen to the professionals. They usually have access to information that the general public does not (that's all I'll say on that subject).

    I don't own a tin foil hat, but don't have any problem being careful.

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      #77
      I think y'all are all crazy!

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        #78
        Gun men held up in warehouse. They have a 26 yr old hostage. Paris has a small army on site

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          #79
          Originally posted by Dieselman View Post
          Gun men held up in warehouse. They have a 26 yr old hostage. Paris has a small army on site
          Actually I think that may be the entire armed forces of France

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            #80
            True

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              #81
              Originally posted by EdO View Post
              My son-in-law, an assistant chief of police in a large AL city gave me this advice about a year ago.

              Start carrying your plastic and your gun and advise every other law abiding citizen you know to to likewise. I rarely carried before, but now I don't even walk out of the house without being armed and always have a weapon on hand in the house. Sometimes it pays to listen to the professionals. They usually have access to information that the general public does not (that's all I'll say on that subject).

              I don't own a tin foil hat, but don't have any problem being careful.
              I know some people who should know and I was also told to carry all the time. One said it isn't if it will happen, it's when it will happen.


              Has anyone ever considered carrying a rifle in their vehicle too so that if you have the opportunity to make it to the vehicle you would have a better fighting chance?

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                #82
                They posted up another one:



                Like previously mentioned, I think it's silly they were showing this vid on all the majors but now it's blurred out because it's too graphic. People just need to make up their own minds of this particular incident. It's a clear miss & nothing graphic about it imo.

                To me the evidence is overwhelming...I've seen too many real vids from the violence down in mexico & there was more than enough time for at least some blood to show up if he was really hit, which the only place would be the head.

                The projectile clearly hits concrete a foot or two from the noggin...bullets won't deflect that distance at that range. I find it odd nobody is running with this.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Artos View Post
                  They posted up another one:



                  Like previously mentioned, I think it's silly they were showing this vid on all the majors but now it's blurred out because it's too graphic. People just need to make up their own minds of this particular incident. It's a clear miss & nothing graphic about it imo.

                  To me the evidence is overwhelming...I've seen too many real vids from the violence down in mexico & there was more than enough time for at least some blood to show up if he was really hit, which the only place would be the head.

                  The projectile clearly hits concrete a foot or two from the noggin...bullets won't deflect that distance at that range. I find it odd nobody is running with this.
                  Can you explain to me your reasoning for concentrating on whether this police officer was hit or not? If the officer wasn't hit, what is your theory?

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                    #84
                    I don't have a theory at this point in the overall Paris killings...I think it is what it is until different information appears. I go by the data that is presented by both main stream & alternative sources & come to my own conclusions. Right now, I only have issues with the video in question.

                    There is a big problem with the visual evidence of this particular shooting & the bizarre reporting on it from the beginning:

                    ~ Why was it originally gtg for the majors to show on TV, but now it's too graphic when the shot clearly hits the ground & not the victim??

                    ~ Most importantly, why is only the alternative sources reporting this evidence of the vid & NOW the main stream is showing the supposed victim blurred out & they are now stopping the vid before the shooting happens?? Why?? There is nothing there but what clearly shows a supposed terrorist shooting & missing a supposed French police officer. This should be expanded, don't you think??

                    To me, the fact the main stream is not reporting on the evidence of the impact of the projectile & lack of evidence of a graphic killing is a ping on my radar. Until more develops, I'm just gonna have to scratch my head.
                    Last edited by Artos; 01-09-2015, 08:44 AM.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by sethcros View Post
                      Can you explain to me your reasoning for concentrating on whether this police officer was hit or not? If the officer wasn't hit, what is your theory?
                      His theory is that the whole thing was a ruse, and that the assailants were actually Moussad or some other developed countries special forces, designed to look like Muslim assailants. And that they spared the officers life, but made it look like he was gunned down.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Playa View Post
                        His theory is that the whole thing was a ruse, and that the assailants were actually Moussad or some other developed countries special forces, designed to look like Muslim assailants. And that they spared the officers life, but made it look like he was gunned down.
                        That is certainly one theory, but I have no factual proof...right now the alternatives are 'assuming' some sort of shenanigans via Israel & France due to the UN vote regarding Palestine.

                        However, you cannot discount the fact that we do indeed appear to have eye witnesses & unfortunate victims. So, it is terrorist attack plain & simple until more develops.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Artos View Post
                          I don't have a theory at this point in the overall Paris killings...I think it is what it is until different information appears. I go by the data that is presented by both main stream & alternative sources & come to my own conclusions. Right now, I only have issues with the video in question.

                          There is a big problem with the visual evidence of this particular shooting & the bizarre reporting on it from the beginning:

                          ~ Why was it originally gtg for the majors to show on TV, but now it's too graphic when the shot clearly hits the ground & not the victim??

                          ~ Most importantly, why is only the alternative sources reporting this evidence of the vid & NOW the main stream is showing the supposed victim blurred out & they are now stopping the vid before the shooting happens?? Why?? There is nothing there but what clearly shows a supposed terrorist shooting & missing a supposed French police officer. This should be expanded, don't you think??

                          To me, the fact the main stream is not reporting on the evidence of the impact of the projectile & lack of evidence of a graphic killing is a ping on my radar. Until more develops, I'm just gonna have to scratch my head.
                          It just seems like one of those molehills in the grand scheme of things that becomes a mountain to many conspiracy theorists. I'm not saying that is you, but many of them do this. To me, I subscribe to Occam's Razor. Conspiracies as big as this would have to be just don't happen in real life. Israel didn't bring down the WTC, and the government didn't fake the moon landing.

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                            #88
                            It is a clear miss, but the gunman never broke pace. Maybe he was just satisfied the LEO didn't make a move on him (knowing the LEO had no weapon to use against him) and kept going to his objective. Maybe it had nothing to do with a conspiracy or fraud.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by DRT View Post
                              It is a clear miss, but the gunman never broke pace. Maybe he was just satisfied the LEO didn't make a move on him (knowing the LEO had no weapon to use against him) and kept going to his objective. Maybe it had nothing to do with a conspiracy or fraud.
                              I'm not saying it had anything to do with a conspiracy...what I'm saying is there is a big red flag that the main stream media is ignoring & disregarding the facts the video shows.

                              I'm mostly irritated that they blatantly changed their presentation & imagery of the video to clearly hinder the view of the projectile missing & hitting the ground. This is too weird to dismiss!!

                              The media reported the policeman was killed begging for his life & was a muslim...the video is now being watered down. Why??

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Artos View Post
                                They posted up another one:



                                Like previously mentioned, I think it's silly they were showing this vid on all the majors but now it's blurred out because it's too graphic. People just need to make up their own minds of this particular incident. It's a clear miss & nothing graphic about it imo.

                                To me the evidence is overwhelming...I've seen too many real vids from the violence down in mexico & there was more than enough time for at least some blood to show up if he was really hit, which the only place would be the head.

                                The projectile clearly hits concrete a foot or two from the noggin...bullets won't deflect that distance at that range. I find it odd nobody is running with this.
                                So he missed. Are you saying the entire video was staged?

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