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Originally posted by JMalin View PostThe existing rigs are more efficient than those that have been stacked and are drilling in the best areas for production. I wouldn't expect production to fall that much. supply issues aren't going away this year.
Of course I'm sure with your knowledge of the industry you already knew that.Last edited by bphillips; 03-12-2015, 09:51 AM.
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Originally posted by JMalin View PostI didn't realize your anecdotal experience mirrored that of the entire drilling industry. I stand corrected
"We're drilling these wells too fast, they can't get rid of us." HA! Rig moves are expensive, the fastest drilling rigs won't go in the first cut, but they're always gone in the 2nd. I could give you example after example of "flag ship" rigs getting cut while middle of the pack rigs stayed drilling. In 07 Nabors had 39 rigs running in Colorado. By spring of 09 they had 2. Guess which 2 survived... M13 and M15. For the style of rig they where, they where worn out piles of garbage. Encanna used that as a bargin chip and got their day rates lowered. They're still drilling now but have been absorbed by the Wyoming district.
I don't claim to know it all, but I know enough about the industry to see through your propagated BS in every post you've made on this thread since the beginning. Everything I've posted above is fact... So indeed sir, you do stand corrected.
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Originally posted by jooger17 View PostWell let's see... I've drilled wells in all corners of Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Maryland, North Dakota, the Gulf of Mexico, and on Sahklin Island in Russia, been through 3 of these slow down periods and there is a common dominator every time. Middle of the pack rigs and rigs with cheaper day rates keep drilling unless there's a special circumstance like this particular rig and Pioneer having hedged oil prices.
"We're drilling these wells too fast, they can't get rid of us." HA! Rig moves are expensive, the fastest drilling rigs won't go in the first cut, but they're always gone in the 2nd. I could give you example after example of "flag ship" rigs getting cut while middle of the pack rigs stayed drilling. In 07 Nabors had 39 rigs running in Colorado. By spring of 09 they had 2. Guess which 2 survived... M13 and M15. For the style of rig they where, they where worn out piles of garbage. Encanna used that as a bargin chip and got their day rates lowered. They're still drilling now but have been absorbed by the Wyoming district.
I don't claim to know it all, but I know enough about the industry to see through your propagated BS in every post you've made on this thread since the beginning. Everything I've posted above is fact... So indeed sir, you do stand corrected.
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Originally posted by jooger17 View PostWell let's see... I've drilled wells in all corners of Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Maryland, North Dakota, the Gulf of Mexico, and on Sahklin Island in Russia, been through 3 of these slow down periods and there is a common dominator every time. Middle of the pack rigs and rigs with cheaper day rates keep drilling unless there's a special circumstance like this particular rig and Pioneer having hedged oil prices.
"We're drilling these wells too fast, they can't get rid of us." HA! Rig moves are expensive, the fastest drilling rigs won't go in the first cut, but they're always gone in the 2nd. I could give you example after example of "flag ship" rigs getting cut while middle of the pack rigs stayed drilling. In 07 Nabors had 39 rigs running in Colorado. By spring of 09 they had 2. Guess which 2 survived... M13 and M15. For the style of rig they where, they where worn out piles of garbage. Encanna used that as a bargin chip and got their day rates lowered. They're still drilling now but have been absorbed by the Wyoming district.
I don't claim to know it all, but I know enough about the industry to see through your propagated BS in every post you've made on this thread since the beginning. Everything I've posted above is fact... So indeed sir, you do stand corrected.
I've been on rigs all over Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Wyoming myself, and I have seen first hand the difference in "top of the line" Flex Rigs and old school beaters that no matter what, keep on right. I'll admit this is my first down turn in the industry, and I'm weary of what the future holds. But I'm thankful every day I get in my work truck and drive to my office or a location, and I'm praying this doesn't last too long. I've already seen too many friends and coworkers in the industry getting laid off.
I wish I would've taken a picture last week when I saw all the Yellow Cabs lined up in downtown Houston. I hate knowing what they were there for.
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Originally posted by JakeRichardson View PostI feel like you and I would get along well, Jooger. In a non creepy way you sound exactly like my father, who is a TCP specialist for the big red devil. He seems to fall in line with your line of thinking and he's been doing this for 37 years now.
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Originally posted by jooger17 View PostThe name does sound familiar but I'm not seeing a face with it. Big Red keeping him busy?
He's expecting the slow down to hit a little later in their department as opposed to the rest.
He's been fortunate so far with no pay cuts or anything, but he's not foolish, even he is saving every penny lately and has advised me (being that im a pup in the oilfield) to do the same
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Originally posted by JakeRichardson View PostYes. He's actually been working more the past few months than he has the past few years.
He's expecting the slow down to hit a little later in their department as opposed to the rest.
He's been fortunate so far with no pay cuts or anything, but he's not foolish, even he is saving every penny lately and has advised me (being that im a pup in the oilfield) to do the same
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Originally posted by jooger17 View Post
There is no "best of the best" for drilling contractors anymore. For some reason unknown to me, they keep a guy around simply due to time with the company. You put me with a 20 year veteran directional driller and I'll smoke him every single day simply because I still have the drive and something to prove. After you've been around 20 years you're going through the motions. I see it every single day.
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Originally posted by BrianL View PostFrom the outside, I guess the "kind of fast" and steady works the same for employees and rigs. You may want to slow down some. Unusual business model, but guess it works for them.
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Originally posted by RiverRat1 View PostSo with no place to put reserves will prices start to drop again? Or is this already baked into the prices?
I'm thinking/guessing they try to make one more panic sell-off in the next 1-2 months.
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Hey Oilfield Guys!!
Originally posted by JMalin View PostThe existing rigs are more efficient than those that have been stacked and are drilling in the best areas for production. I wouldn't expect production to fall that much. supply issues aren't going away this year.
You're right. The 8-10 thousand "extra" wells that were drilled last year by the thousand extra rigs that were in service, and are now laid down will have no effect. In addition, apparently there's no such thing as a decline curve for an oil well.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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