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    #61
    Well said!!!

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      #62
      Originally posted by Bowhuntamistad View Post
      It all comes down to good ol' fashioned situational awareness. Do you constantly watch the door when in an establishment? Do you sit facing the crowd? Try to gauge/read people when walking around. Keep people a safe distance from you? Try to have a pretty good idea of what is going around you at all times?
      Sadly I do all the above. It comes from 3 deployments and it sometimes drives me crazy. I have had to leave a restaurant because there were to many people and it was to close of quarters. I very rarely go to crowded bars or crowded areas for that matter.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Bowhuntamistad View Post
        It all comes down to good ol' fashioned situational awareness. Do you constantly watch the door when in an establishment? Do you sit facing the crowd? Try to gauge/read people when walking around. Keep people a safe distance from you? Try to have a pretty good idea of what is going around you at all times?

        I hate to say it, but if you don't know what is going on around you having your weapon CC'd isn't going to do you much good anyways. They would probably have the drop on you before you even realize what is going on, access the situation, formulate a plan, draw and shoot.

        Winner!

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          #64
          Originally posted by sooner6969 View Post
          Accidental exposure is not unlawful in the State of Texas anymore if you have CHL just passed last year. I am not 100 percent sure, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
          You are correct sir, I was misinformed on this, I had a friend that was detained for about 30 min do to unintentional exposure that had concerned someone in a store,With that said he was not arrested but was given the 3rd degree and had the hassle of being detained , thank you for the correction as I had it wrong. Adam

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            #65
            Open Carry in Texas

            Originally posted by tvc184 View Post
            ??

            I only answered a question by vanmedic about accidental exposure.
            No TVC not you. I was talking about Xman59's posts on the subject matter.

            Somehow I misquoted your post instead of the one above you that quoted him.

            You're one of the good guys.
            Last edited by Mike D; 04-12-2014, 09:34 AM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by texas bound View Post
              Sadly I do all the above. It comes from 3 deployments and it sometimes drives me crazy. I have had to leave a restaurant because there were to many people and it was to close of quarters. I very rarely go to crowded bars or crowded areas for that matter.
              Your not the only one! It drives my wife nuts!! She is one of the ones that thinks nothing bad will ever happen.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Bowhuntamistad View Post
                It all comes down to good ol' fashioned situational awareness. Do you constantly watch the door when in an establishment? Do you sit facing the crowd? Try to gauge/read people when walking around. Keep people a safe distance from you? Try to have a pretty good idea of what is going around you at all times?

                I hate to say it, but if you don't know what is going on around you having your weapon CC'd isn't going to do you much good anyways. They would probably have the drop on you before you even realize what is going on, access the situation, formulate a plan, draw and shoot.
                Well said! CC isn't a cure-all guaranteed saftey, but rather last line of defense. CC has taught me to be much more aware of my surroundings.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by xman59 View Post
                  think about your question and look what is in charge of this country from the president on down........... they really are people that stupid,, i know i arrested mostly morons and idiots for 30 years,,, open handgun carry is a dumb idea,,, what we should be doing in increasing the numbers of capable law abiding CITIZENS, to carry concealed.... how are you or anyone else going to know if the other guy is a gang member or not,,, because they will take advantage of open carry!! i am all for carry always have been and encourage responsible people to do so,, but then you have mega hot heads like my own brother who would be quick to pull, because he is also a coward,, how he does not have a criminal record is beyond me,,, i do not want to see people like him carry concealed let alone open,, because if you dropped a light bulb in a store he would shoot first....

                  so a gang member who has nothing to live for anyway,, walks up to you or anyone else with his open carried gun and decides to rob you, or just shoot you because he can, you will not be able to do anything about it , because he will not announce his intentions,,,, go to u tube and look at the "knock out game" videos which many filmed themselves or someone in their group did... every one of the victims was sucker punched, all of them were criminal offenses and they committed the crime anyway.... it would be no different with open carry,, the best advantage to a "CITIZEN" is concealed carry,, there not likely to allow you to carry in all the stores, banks schools or post offices,, so guess were the auto burglar is going to be waiting,,, in the store parking lot watching you get out with an empty holster or watch you move around trying to hide your pistol.... it will not be there when you get back,,,

                  society as a whole can not be allowed to just openly carry a gun we did that up until the early 1900's,, gun laws went into effect because of the people who were quick to resort to a gun,,

                  i do agree with back ground checks,, to carry,, but i also think anyone who has not been proven mentally unstable or even just hot tempered, should allowed to carry concealed.... but the macho attitude " i have an open gun on my hip" is wrong... that very idea is about being large and in charge,, i am billy bad ___ here is my gun, i dare you!!.

                  i am also against the 30.06 law of not being able to carry concealed in certain places because the very places most of those signs are at is were you most likely to need it!!!!

                  not left in the car with an empty holster, under your shirt...........

                  You know there's a lot of states that allow open carry right?? And none of what you say will happen has been an issue
                  Seems like you suffer from the same mentality as a lot of cops that think they are some how more capable of carrying and make good judgements than the lowly citizens
                  I worked in LE for a few years and I can tell you there's plenty of cops running around that only shoot their guns when they are forced to qualify which they can barely do even with help and extra instruction, heck I've even met a few who couldn't even disassemble and clean their duty weapon

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by xman59 View Post
                    think about your question and look what is in charge of this country from the president on down........... they really are people that stupid,, i know i arrested mostly morons and idiots for 30 years,,, open handgun carry is a dumb idea,,, what we should be doing in increasing the numbers of capable law abiding CITIZENS, to carry concealed.... how are you or anyone else going to know if the other guy is a gang member or not,,, because they will take advantage of open carry!! i am all for carry always have been and encourage responsible people to do so,, but then you have mega hot heads like my own brother who would be quick to pull, because he is also a coward,, how he does not have a criminal record is beyond me,,, i do not want to see people like him carry concealed let alone open,, because if you dropped a light bulb in a store he would shoot first....
                    so a gang member who has nothing to live for anyway,, walks up to you or anyone else with his open carried gun and decides to rob you, or just shoot you because he can, you will not be able to do anything about it , because he will not announce his intentions,,,, go to u tube and look at the "knock out game" videos which many filmed themselves or someone in their group did... every one of the victims was sucker punched, all of them were criminal offenses and they committed the crime anyway.... it would be no different with open carry,, the best advantage to a "CITIZEN" is concealed carry,, there not likely to allow you to carry in all the stores, banks schools or post offices,, so guess were the auto burglar is going to be waiting,,, in the store parking lot watching you get out with an empty holster or watch you move around trying to hide your pistol.... it will not be there when you get back,,,
                    society as a whole can not be allowed to just openly carry a gun we did that up until the early 1900's,, gun laws went into effect because of the people who were quick to resort to a gun,,
                    i do agree with back ground checks,, to carry,, but i also think anyone who has not been proven mentally unstable or even just hot tempered, should allowed to carry concealed.... but the macho attitude " i have an open gun on my hip" is wrong... that very idea is about being large and in charge,, i am billy bad ___ here is my gun, i dare you!!.
                    i am also against the 30.06 law of not being able to carry concealed in certain places because the very places most of those signs are at is were you most likely to need it!!!!
                    not left in the car with an empty holster, under your shirt...........
                    I'm sorry but your argument against open carry makes no sense to me. Criminals are going to break the law no matter what.....that's why they are criminals. I personally think everyone in this country would be much more polite if every law abiding citizen were open carrying.

                    It would certainly get the general populace used to seeing a gun on someone besides an individual in uniform. Part of the problem we have now if people so far removed from reality who see a firearm, no matter the type, and automatically start dialing 911.


                    Jake

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by sooner6969 View Post
                      X2
                      Don't want to be the initial target when someone gets brave enough to take on the world, but if its concealed I might just be the last face they see. Just saying



                      ^^^^^^This.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by sooner6969 View Post
                        X2
                        Don't want to be the initial target when someone gets brave enough to take on the world, but if its concealed I might just be the last face they see. Just saying
                        And how many times does/has this happen in other OC states?

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                          #72
                          I don't think open carry is the answer at all. Let's look back at the "gang members" who already carry concealed without a license, open carry is not going to keep them from carrying concealed. Just because there is a law does not by any means prevent someone from doing something. It would allow some people to feel a little better while in public but, it still would not prevent a criminal from committing a crime and unlawfully carrying a weapon.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by cricketfire46 View Post
                            I don't think open carry is the answer at all. Let's look back at the "gang members" who already carry concealed without a license, open carry is not going to keep them from carrying concealed. Just because there is a law does not by any means prevent someone from doing something. It would allow some people to feel a little better while in public but, it still would not prevent a criminal from committing a crime and unlawfully carrying a weapon.
                            Answer to what?

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by cricketfire46 View Post
                              I don't think open carry is the answer at all. Let's look back at the "gang members" who already carry concealed without a license, open carry is not going to keep them from carrying concealed. Just because there is a law does not by any means prevent someone from doing something. It would allow some people to feel a little better while in public but, it still would not prevent a criminal from committing a crime and unlawfully carrying a weapon.
                              Huh? Riddle me this, how many times have you not carried because it was inconvenient to dress around your gun? I know I have. Open carry will allow more law abiding citizens to more easily carry LAWFULLY, and there is no way that can be a bad thing. I wouldn't do it all the time, but it would be nice to have the option.

                              Criminals are criminals because they BREAK the law...this won't be changing any time soon. Lets focus on giving the rest of us additional options for personal protection.

                              Jake

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by cricketfire46 View Post
                                I don't think open carry is the answer at all. Let's look back at the "gang members" who already carry concealed without a license, open carry is not going to keep them from carrying concealed. Just because there is a law does not by any means prevent someone from doing something. It would allow some people to feel a little better while in public but, it still would not prevent a criminal from committing a crime and unlawfully carrying a weapon.
                                Wth are you talking about?

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