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    #61
    The so called "void" is an excuse for a poorly placed shot. Thats all.

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      #62
      If you shoot rage hypodermics you dont have to worry about the void.

      I shot a deer in the right rear hoof and still clipped his heart. Rages have ultimate cutting diameter with catastrophic blood loss.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Txjourneyman View Post
        The so called "void" is an excuse for a poorly placed shot. Thats all.
        You know what?? You are right. I tried the void excuse before myself but in reality it was just a bad hit plain and simple. Always has been always will be.

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          #64
          Originally posted by keep View Post
          Hey I do want to point out I've been hearing stories of deer with a one lung hit surviving. I can only assume it's a cut lung and not completely vented. Has anyone had this happen? I heard this from the 2nd person to kill the deer with the shriveled up lung NOT the shooter that one-lunged him.
          Anyone else heard or seen this from the person that saw the inside of the deer?
          Not me, but the guy who runs my deer lease (bentlimbs) shot one through one lung and it survived. As the story goes he found a piece of lung on the ground on a long blood trail. A year later he shot a buck at the same stand with a funky rack. Found his 2blade zwickey broadhead in the deer, then realized he had the same deer. I wasn't there, but I believe him.

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            #65
            Originally posted by kyle1974 View Post
            If you shoot rage hypodermics you dont have to worry about the void.

            I shot a deer in the right rear hoof and still clipped his heart. Rages have ultimate cutting diameter with catastrophic blood loss.
            Awesomeness!!!!

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              #66
              Here we go again

              Study some anatomy, lungs fill the entire cavity. There is no void below the spine and above lungs. There is just muscle and some spinous processes above the spine.

              And it does not matter whether the deer is resting or running WAO, lungs are still filling the cavity

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                #67
                Originally posted by TXJIM View Post
                This is not my experience, people will argue until blue in the face that there is a void below the spine.....
                Those of lower IQ's will also argue that Obamacare is the best thing that has ever come along. All it does is prove their ignorance.....

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by keep View Post
                  Actually this post was serious. Not lungs, lung and not a puncture but a cut. That's why I'm asking if anyone has seen this personally as I haven't but do believe the couple that told me fully believe what they saw when they cleaned the deer
                  My FIL kiled a buck in Mexico the next season he shot in the top of the lungs the year before with a fixed blade head. Head was still inside him. I'll see if he still has those pics.

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                    #69
                    I have hiot a deer almost exactly like the one in the picture above, no matter what you refer to is as, I call it a "hollow", there is an area that is not lethal. You won't hit lungs, or spine, just flesh. I shot the same deer two years later and you could see the scar after I skinned him. It went right between two ribs.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BowhunterB View Post
                      I have hiot a deer almost exactly like the one in the picture above, no matter what you refer to is as, I call it a "hollow", there is an area that is not lethal. You won't hit lungs, or spine, just flesh. I shot the same deer two years later and you could see the scar after I skinned him. It went right between two ribs.

                      Surprised you didn't hit guts..

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Txjourneyman View Post
                        The so called "void" is an excuse for a poorly placed shot. Thats all.
                        Not an excuse. You are correct, it is a poorly placed shot, unfortunately we are all not perfect. However there is an area there, a couple of inches below the top of a deer's back, that if hit will not result in a dead deer.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by bowhunterb View Post
                          not an excuse. You are correct, it is a poorly placed shot, unfortunately we are all not perfect. However there is an area there, a couple of inches below the top of a deer's back, that if hit will not result in a dead deer.
                          Can you point that spot out that includes ribs and below the spine in this cross section of a deer as you stated a couple of posts up..?


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                            #73
                            Shoot one in the *** and tell me there isn't a void!

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by EastTexasMan View Post
                              Shoot one in the *** and tell me there isn't a void!

                              See Rage hypodermic post above..

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by EastTexasMan View Post
                                Shoot one in the *** and tell me there isn't a void!
                                Where is Stuart, he has an expert opinion on this subject

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