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    Is omitting information when asked a question the same thing as lying? I was raised to believe it was but yesterday, the same people who raised me that way said that omitting information when asked a question is NOT lying. I tend to disagree. Yesterday I told my parents they were liars because of certain situations that have come up where they were acting a certain way and I would ask them what's wrong. They always answered with something. Months later I find out that every single time I asked what was wrong, the answer was me, but they didn't know how to tell me (I would think just being straight-forward and acting like an adult would be the correct thing to do) so they told me some of the things that were on their mind but OMITTED the part, which come to find out later, was the biggest part, of the real reason they were acting strangely. They've been acting stressed out, and making things uncomfortable for everyone at work. They snap at people, mostly me though...a son is an easier target for wrath than a regular employee, but made it so uncomfortable, one employee said he didn't even like coming to work anymore. I got blamed for that. I have been asking for months what was going on with them (my parents/employers) and they always OMITTED the fact that the main reason for their actions was directly because of me. So my question is, was I wrong for calling them liars when the chose to withhold the REAL information? I was raised by these same people and was raised that omission of information was the same as lying. All of a sudden, I'm being lectured about how omission is not the same thing and,"How dare I call them liars." What say the GS?

    #2
    Are you gay? just kidding

    I say it's lying but depends on the situation as to if it's bad or not. If trying to protect you, not bad. If omitting info because they don't want confrontation, then bad.

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      #3
      Holding back something to avoid a larger conflict is not lying; it is avoidance. I'd say YOU have a big problem if it took you months to figure out that you're the cause of the dissatisfaction among employees and family. Calling your family liars because they wished to avoid exactly the conflict you now seem to want is even more indicative of your problem. Look in the mirror and get some help.

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        #4
        In my opinion, it is never right to call your parents liars.

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          #5
          Your parents lied, you apparently are the issue, you both need to resolve this

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            #6
            Are you a parrent? Sometimes you do not tell your kids everything because you do not want to burden them with your problems. They are kids. They have there own problems. Something’s are better left for adults to work out.

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              #7
              Hold on, my popcorn is in the microwave....

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
                Holding back something to avoid a larger conflict is not lying; it is avoidance. I'd say YOU have a big problem if it took you months to figure out that you're the cause of the dissatisfaction among employees and family. Calling your family liars because they wished to avoid exactly the conflict you now seem to want is even more indicative of your problem. Look in the mirror and get some help.
                No offense but how do I have a big problem? I knew it was me. It was due to my MS. I'm not stupid or slow. I don't want conflict. They finally came clean a few weeks back and that's when I found out they had been omitting this information that was causing problems at work for everyone because of their attitude. If they had come clean from the get-go, we could have figured out a solution at that time instead of letting a problem that we all knew was there, fester. So again, why do I have the problem and why do I need to look in the mirror? I knew what the problem was without them saying something and even tried talking to them about it...only to be told I was wrong...up until they came clean one Saturday. While I appreciate your comment, it wasn't constructive and was basically an attack on me without knowing the full extent of the situation. I wasn't in the wrong. I wanted to fix the problem I knew was there, but by them denying, or omitting, information, made a resolution impossible for months and even put one employee on the verge of quitting. I did everything I could to resolve the problem and they CHOSE to not share, what I consider valuable information, in order to get the problem resolved. I'm also not the dissatisfaction among the employees. The dissatisfaction came from the fact that my employers/family chose to hold stuff in and it made them bitter and caused an uncomfortable work environment. How is any of this my fault? Go get another cup of coffee.

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                  #9
                  How old are you???? Why are you the problem we need more info something is not adding up here.......

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ckuehl View Post
                    Are you a parrent? Sometimes you do not tell your kids everything because you do not want to burden them with your problems. They are kids. They have there own problems. Something’s are better left for adults to work out.
                    Yes, I am a 35 year old adult with an 18 year old daughter, who is a freshman in college this year. This isn't about burdening a kid with a problem that doesn't concern them. This is about withholding information that directly affected me and my co-workers. It was all due to my MS. As an adult, I speak to my parents and and open with them about by disease, but I don't get the the same courtesy or respect from them. All the problems that "holding this information in" caused could have been avoided if they had been up-front and honest with me from the beginning.

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                      #11
                      Saying that nothing is wrong when something is bothering you is lying.

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                        #12
                        Let's talk about lying...

                        Originally posted by blntrey3 View Post
                        How old are you???? Why are you the problem we need more info something is not adding up here.......
                        I'm 35 years old and I have Progressive-Relapsing MS which has progressed very rapidly in the 3 years since my first symptom, back in September 2010. The problem was about me it really all came to a head after my last MS Attack to my T-Spine where I basically had to learn to walk again. I was in hospital for 23 days and from my first day back at the office, that's when the problems started. Since they "my parents/employers" came clean, I have taken a cut in pay, cut in hours, changes in job responsibilities and have done everything I was asked to do.
                        Last edited by bsimm78; 09-11-2013, 06:05 AM.

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                          #13
                          I understand that MS is a problem, but I would think that your parents would be trying to work out any issues that arise because of your MS. Can you say specifically what it is that they are having so much trouble with?

                          Saw your last post. I would think they would adjust your responsibilities because of physical reasons.

                          Did they not?

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                            #14
                            Wow!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by TexasBear View Post
                              I understand that MS is a problem, but I would think that your parents would be trying to work out any issues that arise because of your MS. Can you say specifically what it is that they are having so much trouble with?
                              The fact that they really want to let me go, as an employee, but can't because there are still many things there I am capable of doing. Basically, they are waiting on my award letter for VA disability due to MS and are expecting a resignation letter effective immediately upon receipt of first payment.

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