So, Is Lance a cheat?

[Mister Bubba's bulletman]

The criteria was "seven consecutive anything".

He was also a 7 time NL MVP.

Oh lord.

[blacksunshine]

Oh lord.

I keep telling you guys, there is something about that grass that grows out there in left field....

[WCB]

Here's all I got. I really don't care if any of these athletes take HGH or any other substance. Not my business at all. And if all these others where doping at the same time then Lance still must be the best as none of'em could beat him on a level doped playing field...

[Dale Moser]

Is that anywhere near the same? Fan vote versus skill and endurance?

It's not even in the same conversation. But hitting 73 in a year and breaking Aarron's record is close. And he'd never have been close without roids and body armor.

Pretty much.

Then lets see it! They have a bunch of ****** off, jealous former team-mates, who have all been flat busted and made deals. That kangaroo court they were gonna run him through wouldn't have required proof anyway. If they had actual PROOF, it would have been brought forward a long time ago.

[Easyrider]

Let Him Be...He earned his titles..**** off the Haters..

[Chad C]

It's not even in the same conversation. But hitting 73 in a year and breaking Aarron's record is close. And he'd never have been close without roids and body armor.




Then lets see it! They have a bunch of ****** off, jealous former team-mates, who have all been flat busted and made deals. That kangaroo court they were gonna run him through wouldn't have required proof anyway. If they had actual PROOF, it would have been brought forward a long time ago.

Cheers

[WCB]

It's not even in the same conversation. But hitting 73 in a year and breaking Aarron's record is close. And he'd never have been close without roids and body armor.

Does roids make a hitter stronger and a better hitter? Or just stronger? Not sure if roids can make you see the ball better so you can hit it...

[Chad C]

Does roids make a hitter stronger and a better hitter? Or just stronger? Not sure if roids can make you see the ball better so you can hit it...

It turns an average hitter into a good hitter and a good hitter into a great hitter based on strength/power alone!

You don't last long in baseball if you can't hit the ball.

[WCB]

You don't last long in baseball if you can't hit the ball.

true but I really doubt roids can help you hit the ball. maybe hit it further but not more often... that still takes skill...

[tonyt79]

It turns an average hitter into a good hitter and a good hitter into a great hitter based on strength/power alone!

You don't last long in baseball if you can't hit the ball.

Never took them but always heard it will make a worse fielder but better hitter in baseball. Flexibility is what is lost.

[Legdog]

Marion Jones won 7 consecutive international sprint gold medals before going down in flames in the BALCO steroid mess.

This is too easy.

I'm not a Lance Armstrong hater, but now that Lance has stepped out of the way, I have a feeling there is a story peeking over the horizon that is going to confirm what most of us already suspect.

It is what it is.

If you follow cycling, you know that Landis is a punk but Hincapie is not



It's about to hit the fan.

[lovemylegacy]

I think ALL of his team mates turned him in. Funny when you like someone, they re not classified a cheat.

[blacksunshine]

Marion Jones won 7 consecutive international sprint gold medals before going down in flames in the BALCO steroid mess.

This is too easy.

I'm not a Lance Armstrong hater, but now that Lance has stepped out of the way, I have a feeling there is a story peeking over the horizon that is going to confirm what most of us already suspect.

did she go down with concrete proof or heresay?

[Lost Arra]

Witch hunt.
USADA is trying to justify their total waste of taxpayer dollars by chasing Lance.


Every single cyclist that has been punished for drugs has been caught with a positive drug test. Tour winners have been caught: Floyd Landis, Alberto Contador, Jan Ulrich all tested postive and either fessed up (Ulrich) or made a lame excuse (Contador) or just totally made a fool of themselves (Landis). The point is the objective measure for using ped's is a positive drug test. Lance has been tested over 500 times. Not once positive. Lance is guilty of being an egotistical a-one a**hole to his teammates but he has NEVER tested positive. When he was dominating the Tour those French bas***** were praying for just one positive and never got one.

My question is why do they continue to do drug testing if you can be found guilty by the word of some ex-teammates who have an ax to grind? Every single "witness" hates Lance's guts.

How many baseball players have been found guilty because their teammates said they were dirty? Zero
The only baseball players receiving suspensions tested positive.

I think Lance did the right thing and said I've had enough. Do what ever you want.
Until he tests positive I'm still in Lance's corner

[tonyt79]

I don't know if he did it but he is a great guy to raise all that money for cancer and that gap of tour de France wins that is now vacant will still be filled with him. In my opinion I think he is just tired of fighting it. And why is the US doing all this anyway