Does it matter if you're broadheads spin true on your arrows?

[JW]

Good Lord. The industry is goin to hell in a handbasket. That is broad head tuning 101. Not to self ; Boycot G5, even their rest i love so much based on shear stupidity.

[LFD2037]

Sucks to hear it's G5. I've been more than satisfied w/their 100gr Montec CS & T3's.

[Mudslinger]

How many of you that said it does not matter or that is does not matter at close distances still go ahead and make sure you BH's spin true on your shafts or do you just get them close and call it good. With all the money most of us spend on equipment and hunts or leases why would you not want everything to be as close to perfect as it can be. I have seen way to many arrows with a slightly crooked BH not fly right until the BH spins true on the shaft and that includes mine. I want all the advantage I can get and I make sure that if the BH does not spin perfect, then that arrow does not get shot at an animal. An 1/8" off on a BH seems like a tremendous amout to me even with a well tuned bow an arrow set up, but who knows, I ain't been doing this bowhunting thing that long.

[a3dhunter]

I want all the advantage I can get and I make sure that if the BH does not spin perfect, then that arrow does not get shot at an animal. An 1/8" off on a BH seems like a tremendous amount to me even with a well tuned bow an arrow set up, but who knows, I ain't been doing this bowhunting thing that long.

I agree 100%, and the response from G5 was a let down for sure.
I'm not into replacing the brass collar and working to get the broadhead to square again every couple of shots to be able to practice without "fliers".

[wassaw]

back when we all shot aluminum, if an arrow wobbled when you spin it in the palm of your hand you knew it was bent or had been "hit".
you discarded that arrow or tried to straighten it.

same in my book with the tips.... a wobble is a wobble and does have and effect on flight...

would you shoot a bullet that had a lead tip bent to the side a 1/16th inch???

for the trad guys that are shooting 15-20 yards, i can understand not worrying so much,... but at 45 heck yea

[100%TtId]

Interesting. I'd like to hear more about their testing procedure.

An arrow in flight will oscillate across the dynamic node centers, so the broadhead naturally will not stay in direct alignment with the target or arrow as it flexes. See page 2 in the Easton tuning guide for a diagram.

However, with the rudder effect acting on the front end of the arrow, it just doesn't seem logical that a misaligned broadhead would have no effect. At a minimum, it would cause some steering or corkscrewing. I've had problem arrows that wouldn't group and when I changed the field point, they grouped with the rest of the bunch.

[4-fletch]

you must be talking with muzzy...:d

not

[Smart]

not

He may not have been but they sure qualify ..

[mudbone]

What do you think?
Does it matter?
Does it affect accuracy?

I am in a conversation over email with a person from broadhead manufacturer who has stated that it does not matter if the broadhead is up to 1/8" out of alignment as long as the arrows are correctly spined for the bow set up.

You know how your vehicle feels when it is out of alignment, equate that with broadhead flight and you will get the picture.
Yes it is very important if you are interested in hitting what you are shooting at.

Mudbone

[flywise]

So, for everyone who thinks it matters and will effect arrow flight.
Just how much do you think it effects it? An inch or two or four or five inches?
I betting it would not effect it more than about a inch or two at 20 yds and thus, negligable at best.
I have never owned a G5 and doubt I will but I believe what they apparently said.
And for the record, I have been bow hunting 30 years and never SPIN tested an arrow and also, never missed my target because of an arrow

[rocky]

So, for everyone who thinks it matters and will effect arrow flight.
Just how much do you think it effects it? An inch or two or four or five inches?
I betting it would not effect it more than about a inch or two at 20 yds and thus, negligable at best.
I have never owned a G5 and doubt I will but I believe what they apparently said.
And for the record, I have been bow hunting 30 years and never SPIN tested an arrow and also, never missed my target because of an arrow

I have broadhead tuned quite a few bows over the years, and I've seen major tuning and impact differences simply from a worn or slightly bent blade, not to mention how bad a bent ferrule flies.
At least at speeds above 280 fps.
I have never and will never sell a G5 product, although they make some good stuff.

[RdRdrFan]

You must be talking with Muzzy...

Poorly cut shafts. Or poor inserts.

There are poorly made ferrules as well, but I have usually found the insert and/or poorly cut shafts to be the culprit.

Using a good arrow squaring device on the shafts after cutting is a good practice.

When doing the spin testing, use hot melt glue on the inserts, that way as you spin and see any wobble, you can replace BH with a field point, apply heat to the point until it softens the glue, rotate insert slightly(1/4 turn), spin-test, repeat. If you make a full rotation and still wobbles, toss that insert and start over. When you find a point where you get true spin, mark the edge of the insert and shaft, then reinsert with your preferred glue. Frankly, I use plain ole hot melt craft glue sticks, even on my target shafts, out of 1000's of shots at indoor bales and 3D targets, I've had maybe 3 pull out.

Dead on for the question asked.

How many of you that said it does not matter or that is does not matter at close distances still go ahead and make sure you BH's spin true on your shafts or do you just get them close and call it good. With all the money most of us spend on equipment and hunts or leases why would you not want everything to be as close to perfect as it can be. I have seen way to many arrows with a slightly crooked BH not fly right until the BH spins true on the shaft and that includes mine. I want all the advantage I can get and I make sure that if the BH does not spin perfect, then that arrow does not get shot at an animal. An 1/8" off on a BH seems like a tremendous amout to me even with a well tuned bow an arrow set up, but who knows, I ain't been doing this bowhunting thing that long.

Best post on this thread. This man has been doing this longer than several folks on this thread have been alive. I think I'd listen to him over an obvious idiot at G5 who is either a) stupid or b) has an agenda.

[JW]

He may not have been but they sure qualify ..

Dont be hatin cuz you cant tune.

[wassaw]

made this last night to show how i spin test. i use one like the following



video link

http://youtu.be/m-xR43_C5Sg

[GILBERT]

Good Lord. The industry is goin to hell in a handbasket. That is broad head tuning 101. Not to self ; Boycot G5, even their rest i love so much based on shear stupidity.

shear stupidity???..ABSOLUTELY!!!.

Years ago Charlie Langston and i were culling broadhead tipped arrows before our Colorado Elk hunt. We were shooting them at 40 yds at the old Baytown Bowhunters Range. Bottom line...if you are happy with broadheads that are not spinning true, and consistantly hitting anywhere from 6" or more at times away from the others at 40 yds...then i guess it does not matter for you.

During that culling session Charlie got me to stand to the side close to the target. He had the idea that they might also be making noise going to the target....they did whistle, or hum for the lack of better words. Charlie calimed that he could tell which ones were the ones not spinning true, said that he could tell a difference in arrow flight as well.

Charlie was 8 time national champion, and he could call his shots with incredible precision.


GILBERT