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How did they grow a 1,000" white tail buck?
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Let me state some very obvious facts since you’re too dense to understand.
Breeder pens are a very controlled environment. You select which buck with which doe. You cannot do that LF or outside of a pen.
Top end nutrition. See above.
Regardless of HF or LF, you have predation. Natural browse and stuff controlled by Mother Nature. Many other factors that you do not have in a pen.
Repeat these steps for years and years with amazing genetics and yes. You can grow some giants.
Remember, you started with the asinine comment. You won’t answer it. Now you’re mad folks called you on it. I will gladly admit I’m wrong if you know they inject the deer. But I don’t think you will at all.
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Originally posted by trophy8 View PostLet me state some very obvious facts since you’re too dense to understand.
Breeder pens are a very controlled environment. You select which buck with which doe. You cannot do that LF or outside of a pen.
Top end nutrition. See above.
Regardless of HF or LF, you have predation. Natural browse and stuff controlled by Mother Nature. Many other factors that you do not have in a pen.
Repeat these steps for years and years with amazing genetics and yes. You can grow some giants.
Remember, you started with the asinine comment. You won’t answer it. Now you’re mad folks called you on it. I will gladly admit I’m wrong if you know they inject the deer. But I don’t think you will at all.
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Originally posted by Jcjohnson View PostCan we get the back story?
It's not that big of a deal. I just figured I'd do a poll since no one wants to chime in (and get called names) so I figured some would do a poll so they can stay anonymous.
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Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
Just that some guys think these huge near 1,000" bucks are grown without drugs. They think it's just feed, genetics and a controlled environment. They, for some reason, got very upset when I said drugs were used.
It's not that big of a deal. I just figured I'd do a poll since no one wants to chime in (and get called names) so I figured some would do a poll so they can stay anonymous.
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I’ve been involved in the hunting industry in some form or fashion for over 30 years. Have met a LOT of deer breeders. Have been on a LOT of breeding places. Have had a lot of clients who are breeders. I’ve guided hunts on breeder ranches. I’ve been “around” I guess you could say. Not once EVER has anyone mentioned any drugs for growing or manipulating antlers. I have heard stories about other methods used to manipulate antlers, but never drugs. Sorry Tim but I just don’t think it’s happening like you believe it is.
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I just did a one minute search and saw this.
A series of six studies were carried out in red deer stags to test hypotheses concerning the importance of steroid control of velvet antler growth and to investigate mechanisms by which these hormones exert their effects. Medroxyprogesterone acetate (MPA) an LH inhibitor administered to stags during …
I always figured it was combination of no stress, unlimited correct feed and genetics that grew 300 inch deer. 1,000” is hard to imagine.
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Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
Just that some guys think these huge near 1,000" bucks are grown without drugs. They think it's just feed, genetics and a controlled environment. They, for some reason, got very upset when I said drugs were used.
It's not that big of a deal. I just figured I'd do a poll since no one wants to chime in (and get called names) so I figured some would do a poll so they can stay anonymous.
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