In today’s crazy world if you put in two weeks notice be prepared to leave immediately. Loyalty from companies (and some employees) has been gone a long time. Imo it dates back to when several companies started changing their retirement/pension plans in an attempt to attract the employees swapped jobs on a more frequent basis.
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Originally posted by Killer View PostWhat took her so long?
no such thing as two weeks notice anymore
I work for one of the largest public utilities in Texas. As soon as an employee tries to do the right thing and gives two weeks notice the next day they will have security escort them out of the building. No loyalty on either side anymore. Tell her not to loose one minute of sleep over this.
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The fact remains, she is the one that decided to leave and is going to work for another home builder, in the same area. It is well within the company's discretion to say when she is gone at that point. I agree they should have just had an upfront conversation about when that was. I have had people give two weeks or more, notice and I have had people ghost and just not show up. I appreciate the notice much more as a business owner. Depending on what their roles were and how integral they were, where they were going, better opportunity, competitor etc. all determined if I ended it right there or not. I have also fired people and paid them for two weeks or more but said their last day was immediate. This seems to be a whole lot about hurt feelings than anything else.
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I agree the situation was handled poorly, especially from a communication standpoint. However, as others mentioned, submitting a resignation to go work for a competitor in the same area typically will lead to an immediate dismissal. That's not just a home builder thing. I'd move on and not look back.
Someone told me a long time ago, if you are going to submit a notice, be prepared to be escorted out that day and it being your last day worked. I've seen all sides of this throughout my career. To be honest, while I've always considered a 2 week notice a nice gesture, I've seen very mixed results on how it worked out. Seen plenty of people submit a 2 week notice only to put it on auto-pilot and take up space. Seen a few others make valid attempts to make their transition out of the Company as painless as possible. It's a two way street. There are lots of bad companies out there, but there are even more bad employees. Of all the 2 weeks notices I've seen submitted, about 50% of those ended up being dismissed before the end of it.Last edited by CaptainDave; 09-26-2024, 09:57 AM.
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Originally posted by SmTx View PostPut the notice in if it’s required to be eligible for rehire. Don’t expect to work the notice.
Future potential employers can’t get much info legally from a past employer but they can ask if the person is eligible for rehire and that says a lot
2 weeks notice was very well respected from me but I would have a cordial talk with them , tell them I appreciated it and released them immediately on good terms If they were a valuable employee.
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Let's flip this to the employer's side, spent 6 years of resources and now leaving to a competitor. Did you expect them to be understanding? I have no issue with employee working out 2 weeks, but 9 out of 10 times the effort is poor and damage control kicks in.
What she is feeling is completely normal, good luck on the new job!
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Originally posted by bbqfan5909 View PostLet's flip this to the employer's side, spent 6 years of resources and now leaving to a competitor. Did you expect them to be understanding? I have no issue with employee working out 2 weeks, but 9 out of 10 times the effort is poor and damage control kicks in.
What she is feeling is completely normal, good luck on the new job!
Some have left and are now competitors, They still call for advice and I give it. They also send me clients that are too big for them to handle. And I have a few that even come back t work with us. I don't care about your skin color or religion or politics.
Drink on the job? Gone. Miss a deadline without cause twice? Gone.
Treat people how you want to be treated. Lead by example.
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Originally posted by scooter66 View PostI have worked for the same company for 33 years so have no experience with leaving.
Are you required to tell current employer where you are going to work and if it is competitor to current employer?
I've had some employees tell me where they are going but majority of them just say they've found a better paying job or a job that fits their home life better. Which both are understandable. The ones that are great assets I'll ask if there is anything that I can do to keep them onboard and there are the others that I don't even bother. I'll wish them well and let them be on their way.
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She called around lunch time on Monday to let them know she is taking a new opportunity, she knows most of the time this company just tells you to go ahead and leave, she even asked them if they want to her to leave that day, they said no, we trust you and please finish up the 2 weeks. She has a company vehicle and was ready to leave Monday, had arranged for a ride home, etc. but since they asked her to stay the 2 weeks she finished her day. She shows up to work Tuesday morning locked out of everything, they did not even call or text, she had to contact them, they responded with a text "please leave right now". She had to get someone to pick her up and bring her home. All could have been avoided with a simple, hey please go ahead and leave now instead of showing up for no reason. All is good, but just stressful for her, it all could have been dealt with in a different way. We will see if she gets paid for her 2 weeks, I don't think she will.
There were multiple factors that made her leave, a lot of turnovers in the New Braunfels office, a death and some micro-managing from the Houston office that really made her unhappy. They only had 6 employees in the here in New Braunfels, so everyone was pretty close when she first started and just got unhappy the past year.
Knowing from what I have learned from her about how this company operates, I would not recommend getting a house built by them. They hold on to all the sub's checks for as long as they can, nickel and dime the owners over change orders and a few other things. The PM's used to get bonuses on the change orders, then the owners took that away and started increasing the percentages, keeping it for themselves.
If you listen to WOAI in San Antonio or AM radio in Houston, they are advertised there. Even Michael Berry did some advertising for them. I'm sure you can figure it out from there.
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In our company, when we get a two week notice and the employee is going to work for a competitor or the employee is someone we would rather leave sooner than later, we accept their notice tell them they can leave and pay out their notice.
On another note, If the OP's wife was not paid for her notice I believe she can apply for unemployment for those two weeks as her separation could be considered a constructive discharge.
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