Was America founded on Christian beliefs?

[Bill M]

This is exactly what I was just going to post. Sums it up pretty well and the question is answered.

And for those talking about slavery, christianity, etc. and how they relate, it is impossible to judge those in the past by today's standard. There is a huge fallacy in that thought that will never lead to a correct conclusion. The bottom line is you can't judge the past by today's standards.

Yes, same thing I said above. Different times, different standards but invariably this fact is ignored.

[asu-indian]

Come on bow season!

[Death from Above]

Whatever the foundation may have been…we are far from a christian nation now

[rolylane6]

Yes, our government has abandoned all of our foundational beliefs. Man, left to follow ONLY man's rule of law, will always be led away from God.

[Etxbuckman]

Any time I hear or see people talking about the white man stealing the red man’s lands, I think about this:

https://youtu.be/iVqQosyOpg4?si=WcycNlITjAL26ycD

[rolylane6]

Any time I hear or see people talking about the white man stealing the red man’s lands, I think about this:

https://youtu.be/iVqQosyOpg4?si=WcycNlITjAL26ycD

That's an interesting take. I wonder how accurate it is? Probably not far off. Men will be men, no matter the color of their skin.

[Etxbuckman]

That's an interesting take. I wonder how accurate it is? Probably not far off. Men will be men, no matter the color of their skin.

I mean, the guys not wrong.

[rolylane6]

I mean, the guys not wrong.

Yeah, I wouldn't argue against it

[Twist]

Is America even real?

[flywise]

Any time I hear or see people talking about the white man stealing the red man’s lands, I think about this:

https://youtu.be/iVqQosyOpg4?si=WcycNlITjAL26ycD

Correct, white man didn't steal anything that had not already been "stolen". It's human nature to concor an enemy and has been since the the beginning

[CEO]

This is exactly what I was just going to post. Sums it up pretty well and the question is answered.

And for those talking about slavery, christianity, etc. and how they relate, it is impossible to judge those in the past by today's standard. There is a huge fallacy in that thought that will never lead to a correct conclusion. The bottom line is you can't judge the past by today's standards.

Reminds me of a quote I see on another forum.

"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

L.P. Hartley

[RiverRat1]

If you go back and read I never said I didn't believe in God. I don't believe that God is exactly what you think it is. I still know about Christianity and what people believe it's about and what guidelines they think God would want them to follow. According to the Bible and loving your neighbor and all that jazz we're obeying that to a T in todays society. To our own detriment we have that on lockdown.
I think people like you just read what's been written over and over and over and take it for truth instead of looking at society as a whole and realizing what's written in that book ain't always what's best.
And while the Bible is a good guide on how to live your life, times do change and not everything can align with that and at a point some of those things written in that book are void. It has to be at some point or just like the Natives we too will lose our way of life. That's where we're heading. Ready or not.

Since the thread is derailed, and I guess we pretty much all agree America was founded on Christian principles I'll now share more thoughts.

But this can or should be moved to PACE since it went way off the rails. Was never meant to be a religion thread at all.

I was going to say the same (that's bolded) to you and then I saw you posted it LOL. Not sure why you think you know what happened here in the beginning. But I think you have it all wrong. Your thoughts are not logical at all. Hard to fathom you thinking Christians sailed over here and just started killing people for no reason. It's sad how atheist always scream that but never have seen it actually happen in their life. They just say it always happened in the past. But they don't understand half of what they read or even understand who wrote the info they gathered or why it was written.

[okrattler]

Since the thread is derailed, and I guess we pretty much all agree America was founded on Christian principles I'll now share more thoughts.

But this can or should be moved to PACE since it went way off the rails. Was never meant to be a religion thread at all.

I was going to say the same (that's bolded) to you and then I saw you posted it LOL. Not sure why you think you know what happened here in the beginning. But I think you have it all wrong. Your thoughts are not logical at all. Hard to fathom you thinking Christians sailed over here and just started killing people for no reason. It's sad how atheist always scream that but never have seen it actually happen in their life. They just say it always happened in the past. But they don't understand half of what they read or even understand who wrote the info they gathered or why it was written.

I never said anything about atheist. I think you skipped over that part. What you say may be true but couldn't the same be said about the things die hard Christians believe? Everything we read is about the past. You either believe it or you don't. You couldn't prove a word of it any more than someone who doesn't believe could disprove it.

As for coming over here and just killing people. I'm pretty sure they did. I don't think the Natives were just super glad to see them.

[Death from Above]

Tell me you have no grasp of scripture without telling me you have no grasp of scripture lol

[okrattler]

If we're talking about truths the truth is the Natives were closer to God before the white man got here and corrupted them with their ideology and ways of life. It's no different than these people that travel to far away places to teach the word of Jesus Christ and get massacred by tribes that don't know Jesus and don't care to. Just because you come to a land and indoctrinate a group of people doesn't mean you're right and they've been wrong.