Panhandle Fires

[Playa]

Nobody ever really explained why that wouldn't work or make sense other than "I don't want to." That's not a good reason. Cost came up. You can put a price on someones life? If that's the only reasons farmers can come up with neither is a good excuse. It could easily be done. I'm not a farmer but that's for certain. You can't plant Winter wheat or something that's less likely to burn instead of corn or something like that? I don't understand that. What's so different about it that it something green near towns is so much worse on a farmer than milo or corn?

There might have been a handful of circles of corn that burned, that could have been planted in wheat. That ain’t corn country son.

you ever heard that it’s better for folk to think of you as a fool, than to open your mouth and prove them right?

your argument isn’t valid here. I understand your logic, on our place and Coleman we plant oats surrounding our cabin for this purpose. But we’re talking a fire that jumped miles at a time, a section of wheat wouldn’t have stopped it.

if cost is no concern for human life, we should just pave the entire state, then there would be no wifdfires, because there would be no wild. And while we are at it, I’m going to need you to turn in your guns, cuz your freedom to have your property is less valuable than a man’s life.

[Greenheadless]

No. I don't tell Nasa how to build a rocket to put a satellite in orbit because I don't know anything about building a rocket. You're not a farmer.

Lol….. you must be new here. Welcome.

[okrattler]

There might have been a handful of circles of corn that burned, that could have been planted in wheat. That ain’t corn country son.

you ever heard that it’s better for folk to think of you as a fool, than to open your mouth and prove them right?

your argument isn’t valid here. I understand your logic, on our place and Coleman we plant oats surrounding our cabin for this purpose. But we’re talking a fire that jumped miles at a time, a section of wheat wouldn’t have stopped it.

if cost is no concern for human life, we should just pave the entire state, then there would be no wifdfires, because there would be no wild. And while we are at it, I’m going to need you to turn in your guns, cuz your freedom to have your property is less valuable than a man’s life.

It wouldn't stop it or slow it down where it can't burn? I'm gonna have to stop and think about that one. I think everyone else should dwell on it too.

You're talking about the fire currently in Texas. I'm talking about wildfires in general. There ain't no use in worrying about the one in Texas. It's already out of control. That's a done deal.

[BarBBar]

These fires bring to mind the 1961 episode of Gunsmoke titled "Long, Long Road" where Matt Dillon and a soldier's beautiful fiancee he is guiding on a dangerous wilderness journey are nearly engulfed by a scorching wall of prairie fire.

[Throwin Darts]

It wouldn't stop it or slow it down where it can't burn? I'm gonna have to stop and think about that one. I think everyone else should dwell on it too.

You're talking about the fire currently in Texas. I'm talking about wildfires in general. There ain't no use in worrying about the one in Texas. It's already out of control. That's a done deal.

How big is the burn buffer area around your house?

[okrattler]

How big is the burn buffer area around your house?

My house is so close to other houses there are none unless you count those as a fire buffer. My house would catch on fire if either of my neighbors did.

[bboswell]

Nobody ever really explained why that wouldn't work or make sense other than "I don't want to." That's not a good reason. Cost came up. You can put a price on someones life? If that's the only reasons farmers can come up with neither is a good excuse. It could easily be done. I'm not a farmer but that's for certain. You can't plant Winter wheat or something that's less likely to burn instead of corn or something like that? I don't understand that. What's so different about it that it something green near towns is so much worse on a farmer than milo or corn?

Farmers ain't building space shuttles. They're operating equipment and putting things in the ground.

You ever heard of rotating crops?

You have already talked yourself into a hole you can't get out of so just stop digging already!

[100%TtId]

Looks like Gene Howe WMA was in the path.

Praying for some rain.

[okrattler]

You ever heard of rotating crops?

You have already talked yourself into a hole you can't get out of so just stop digging already!

I've also seen people plant Winter wheat in the same spots year after year. So are they just not good farmers? That doesn't really answer my question.

[J-5]

Alright, let’s entertain this one. So, let’s plow up and plant wheat for say 20,000 acres of range land around every town in the panhandle. Oh wait, there’s brush? Well, let’s get to dozing. How many thousands of acres of brush land should we doze to plant wheat? Furthermore, what are we to do with this abundance of wheat? They have to harvest it because amazingly, none of that seed, diesel, equipment, wear and tear, land rent, lack of proper grazing, manpower, and facilities were free. Wait, there’s more… to harvest, it has to dry down. Then there’s more fire fuel. Then what? ?? ?? Who pays for this? In what wonderland does it just appear? Do you really think these people don’t care and don’t prepare themselves for this because they haven’t thought about this happening before? It is a very unfortunate part of living in the area. It happens. Not every year but it does happen.

[mooch]

Nobody ever really explained why that wouldn't work or make sense other than "I don't want to." That's not a good reason. Cost came up. You can put a price on someones life? If that's the only reasons farmers can come up with neither is a good excuse. It could easily be done. I'm not a farmer but that's for certain. You can't plant Winter wheat or something that's less likely to burn instead of corn or something like that? I don't understand that. What's so different about it that it something green near towns is so much worse on a farmer than milo or corn?

Farmers ain't building space shuttles. They're operating equipment and putting things in the ground.

Overall this argument is pretty far out there, and wildly inaccurate and unrealistic, but one thing that keeps coming up is cost and your assumption that farmers should shoulder the cost because “you can’t put a price on someone’s life”

Let’s flip the script - should residents near farms front farmers money to plant these winter crops? If they can’t put a price on life then the residents should be very willing to front the money because it’s for the greater good of people, right?

[okrattler]

Alright, let’s entertain this one. So, let’s plow up and plant wheat for say 20,000 acres of range land around every town in the panhandle. Oh wait, there’s brush? Well, let’s get to dozing. How many thousands of acres of brush land should we doze to plant wheat? Furthermore, what are we to do with this abundance of wheat? They have to harvest it because amazingly, none of that seed, diesel, equipment, wear and tear, land rent, lack of proper grazing, manpower, and facilities were free. Wait, there’s more… to harvest, it has to dry down. Then there’s more fire fuel. Then what? ?? ?? Who pays for this? In what wonderland does it just appear? Do you really think these people don’t care and don’t prepare themselves for this because they haven’t thought about this happening before? It is a very unfortunate part of living in the area. It happens. Not every year but it does happen.

How would it cost that much more to move the same winter wheat they were going to plant anyway to the outskirts of the community to serve as a fire barrier and plant their corn where they were going to plant their winter wheat away from town? I'm not suggesting make every field winter wheat. If it's about rotating crops, rotate to something less likely to burn up in nothin flat.

[mooch]

My house is so close to other houses there are none unless you count those as a fire buffer. My house would catch on fire if either of my neighbors did.

Have you considered planting winter wheat in between?

[eradicator]

I've also seen people plant Winter wheat in the same spots year after year. So are they just not good farmers? That doesn't really answer my question.

Insurance farmers more than likely

[Mudslinger]

A bigger question is, DID any of the ares affected by these fires get some rain, sleet or snow and possible cooler temps to help with the efforts to fight these fires?