Kaput feral hog poison

[Dusty Britches]

Will you continue to eat the ones you shoot with the poison on the market?

I won't eat nor will I recommend people eat hogs with blue fat. But if their fat is white, meat is on the menu.

Interesting - the first time I ever heard of a hog with blue fat was several years ago in California. The hog had been legally poisoned. Kaput has been around for a long time.

[camoclad]

How long does it take the fat to turn blue? I just don't think you should chance it as long as this poison is approved. You can't know....

[DedDuk]

How long does it take the fat to turn blue?

Usually by 18 they are dependent on the govt and vote blue.

[98ag]

How long does it take the fat to turn blue? I just don't think you should chance it as long as this poison is approved. You can't know....

In the different articles I have seen posted anywhere from 3-24 hours for the meet to turn blue. I agree, it would be a risk.

What I have not seen is anyone state what it would do to a human if they eat it. I have taken warfarin as a blood thinner. It is not a typical poison they are getting the pigs to overdose. How much is transferred by eating the meet of a pig that has been poisoned? It seems like this is a question that should have been answered before it was approved but it appears it was not.

[PondPopper]

In the different articles I have seen posted anywhere from 3-24 hours for the meet to turn blue. I agree, it would be a risk.

What I have not seen is anyone state what it would do to a human if they eat it. I have taken warfarin as a blood thinner. It is not a typical poison they are getting the pigs to overdose. How much is transferred by eating the meet of a pig that has been poisoned? It seems like this is a question that should have been answered before it was approved but it appears it was not.

Lawyers are chomping at the bit, just waiting on this gate to swing open.

[Cberry]

People bitched and moaned about them until they found out how much northerners would pay to for a Texas trophy hog lease, tell ya little secret, LO don't really want to get rid of ALL of em

They are only terribly invasive, destructive, and putting farmers out of business when people question the means by which they are taken. Now, someone offers to come shoot all the pigs, ok they are $250 a head and $100 access fee. Or if you want i can get you a helicopter for $1,750.

[gtsticker]

I saw some for sale at the feed store a couple weeks ago. It will be minimal in effectiveness if people still don’t trap and shoot every hog they see. Also if one out of 10 ranchers don’t do it the hogs will just adapt and keep multiplying.

[dbaio1]

Allow me to clarify my position. Im not in favor of allowing unchecked feral hogs to run rampant. Landowners should manage or eliminate them as they see fit, and that's not up for debate.

The real issue I think this thread is addressing is whether the damage caused by feral hogs justifies using a broad-spectrum poison that is also dangerous to humans and other critters. I don't think it does. The research supporting this approach seems biased and leads to inaccurate conclusions. For example, in the link provided it states, A 2021 Texas study claims individual producers can face costs of over $200,000 annually due to hogs. This figure seems exaggerated and designed to create a biased viewpoint.

However, I can't be certain of this. I'm interested in conducting my own research and would appreciate if any landowners could share their actual numbers. There are some folks on this forum with significant land holdings and operations.

Our land in North Louisiana is no longer farm land and mostly pine plantations and hardwood bottoms now. Hogs are destructive and do a lot of damage to roads, irrigation and draining berms but we cant really put a price on it. Our land in South Louisiana is sugarcane land. Hogs are destructive there too but mostly to roads, drainage structures etc crop destruction is minimal. We refuse to use any poison that will potentially harm humans amd other critters. The research that was done to allow these products to be marketed was bought and paid for. I am sure of it and guarantee at some point lawyers running class acrion lawsuits will be on TV, social media and spam in yout email inbox ready to sign you up.

We will stick to trapping and hunting them 365.

Good luck in your research. I will ask my cousin who runs the sugar farming if he has any numbers.

[kmack]

The fact that nobody here can provide empirical evidence of the destruction nor an attestation of the cost of said destruction does not mean the problem does not exist…”Lack of proof is not itself.”

The small lease we have near Comfort has seen plenty of hog traffic over most of the last 19 yrs that I've been there. Some years more than others - it ebbs/flows. However, below is my "empirical evidence" of hog destruction that I can attest to. This was a year and a half ago, over the course of three nights, and by obviously one hog (however it appears he hired some "help" ).

While I'm posting this mostly light-heartedly, I actually do have repair costs associated with this damage: (2) new 6V batteries, new solar panel, (2) 50 lb bags of corm (min), new mini solar LED light, and a few misc items such as wire, metal wire loom, etc. It's only about $100 at the most, but still money out of my pocket and lease budget. All caused by only one hog.

In the idea of this thread, I do not see/agree with using poison as a method to control the hog population. That was tried with coyotes years ago with pellet drops from airplanes. They don't seem be doing that anymore, and we still have issues with them all across the state. In fact with regards to my lease, we have only seen/heard coyotes in the last 3 years, never before! Sounds like a growing population to me...

My personal belief is that the poison control method for hogs was started by city folk who moved to the outskirts (not quite the country, but close) and are complaining about their flowers & lawn grass being torn up and therefore forcing the idea of poison control onto the surrounding farms/farmers to take care of. But that's just my opinion.

I like having the hogs on our place and I like shooting them and putting them in our freezer. We make really good chili with their meat!

[kmack]

Plus there is a $12 bounty on hog tails in Kerr County...not likely to get the tail if they die from poison in the brush!

[Man]

Sounds like I need to finish building my 12'x12' hog glue trap concept.

[dbaio1]

Sounds like I need to finish building my 12'x12' hog glue trap concept.

Ok need more info on that 🤣

[toledo]

What are they using as the bait portion of the recipe? If it's meat based, wouldn't hurt my feelings if coons or coyotes got in it. If it's grain, sure would suck to wipe out your deer. Even with a feeder, it's going to end up all over the ground.