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Originally posted by ratterrier View PostEasy way to fix it, buy 2900 acres and run the sorry pesky landowner off, how dare him shoot on his own ranch, use his own shop check his cattle water trough, not let you tell him how to run his ranch, get written permission to visit his own property at your convenience!!!!
And btw, get a fresh bowl of Cheerios cause I think somebody tinkled in yours this morning
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Life is too short to have to worry about the small stuff. Some people just can't help themselves.
Being nagged all of the time sux and starts to rub you the wrong way after a while. Most people will not put up with it for very long.
KK, You have a little more tolerance for it because of your desire to stay and grow decent deer. It is tough to find like minded individuals that are willing to do what it takes to get there.
If you are lucky you may find 2-3 per year that will stick with it. Takes a few years to get a good core group of guys that can tolerate each other and afford the financial side of things each year.
Turnover is the biggest headache of a lease manager.
You are not going to change the old man.
Rat terrier......you are amazing and a true asset to TBH! Your insight into matters such as this, the awesome punctuation in your posts and the incredibly smokin deals you offer up to us in the classifieds make me glad to call you a fellow Green Screener. Salud!
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I was on a lease like yours several years ago near Bulverde. Landowner was a nice guy but very particular. He would often be waiting at the cabin after the evening hunt, kind of expect to be fed dinner and talk until midnight when I finally told him I needed to get some sleep. He would again be waiting at the cabin after morning hunt and hang around until 3pm, again had to tell him I needed to get on stand. He was very particular about little things as well, and it all just added up to no longer being enjoyable. I felt like I could never just get away and relax, a lot like the original post stated about feeling like a guest in someone's home. I finally pulled the trigger and got off the lease, and do did most of the guys that were on it. Good luck in whatever decision you make!
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I had the same situation on a lease I was on a couple years ago. Landowner is a friend, and he still is. I completely understood that he lived there and enjoyed getting out and working on his place - building fence, checking cattle, welding this and that, etc.... His house is in the middle of the best cover on the place. He works in town for a living, and evenings and weekends are his only time to get stuff done on the place. So he was often out driving his 4-wheeler checking fence and cattle, banging on whatever he was working on, blading the road, and such during prime hunting time. The first year I hunted there I couldn't understand why the deer were nocturnal even in early October. I'd never seen it like that anywhere I'd ever hunted before. After hunting there for a full season, I soon figured out why the deer stayed nocturnal. Just way too much activity and ruckus on the place all the time.
It was the perfect lease if it weren't for that. It is 14 miles from my house, and there are some nice deer out there. But since I can't shoot them after dark, I decided I had to get off the lease. I wouldn't dream of asking him to sit quietly in his house for the entire deer season. It's his place, and he can get out and do whatever he wants to. I just didn't want to try to hunt there anymore.
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Sounds like your two years into your lease ? I would talk to the land owner and get to know him. Build trust with each other and be able to discuss things openly. If you have a good place you have to work at it to make it better and becoming a friend with the landowner is the best bet.
Good luck
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Originally posted by ratterrier View PostEasy way to fix it, buy 2900 acres and run the sorry pesky landowner off, how dare him shoot on his own ranch, use his own shop check his cattle water trough, not let you tell him how to run his ranch, get written permission to visit his own property at your convenience!!!!
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Great thread..
It relates to HUNTING and not politics, news or college football.
Thanks for posting. I wish there were more like it.
Oh and as for your situation...it could be worse. Maybe just a little more communication with the owner would help but be very careful what you say. It is his place. Those that wish to leave can hit the pavement.
Thanks again!!
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My landowner is great and lives on his property, no problems here. My thought in your situation with that much property. Is it possible to gate another entrance to the lease and move the camp to another area? I use a generator and water tanks and sometimes just like to get in and out without any disturbance. He may enjoy the visiting a little more than you do and like to be involved more than you would like. By moving to say the back of the property it may change his ability to constantly monitor who is on the property and when you are there. Gracefully explain to him you would like to be more stealth. My 2 cents ..Last edited by Hntnsumpin; 01-28-2012, 12:52 PM. Reason: saw trailer house on 2nd post probably not an option sorry
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