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    Does your landowner live on your lease?

    We have a special situation on our lease, there are three landowners living on our lease. We have 2 properties that comprise our lease, 2400 and 500 acres. This creates a couple problems for me and my lease
    mates. There is constant activity around the lease and at camp. They don't hunt(that we know of) unless they ask if a nephew or son can shoot a doe but I just ask that they wait till doe/spike season. So far no one has actually hunted in the last two years. Ten traffic is not exsesive mainly just the main owner driving checking water trophs or just a daily cruise. Sometimes he has friends out picking up firewood and someone may pop a couple rounds at a shooting area. It's all minor but the amount of minor stuff adds up to more than we would like ideally.
    Also the main landowners shop is in the same area as our camp. He is a super nice guy but wants everything done exactly his way and has to have a say in most everything we do. Like I said it is never rude or mean but at the same time we aren't children.
    I can live with it but it's hard for others to get used to it. As one put it," I don't feel like I'm at the lease, I feel like I'm a guest at his house and I don't want to do anything out of line."
    We have a good set up and he is very good to work with us and help as much as he can but is definitely set in his ways.
    I have already lost some guys and the rest of us are contemplating a move as well.
    Anybody else deal with the same thing, is it worth it to stay? Will it get better?Are we making a bigger deal than it really is?

    #2
    can you move the camp to the other property?

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      #3
      Originally posted by crittergitter View Post
      can you move the camp to the other property?
      No all power, water, utilities and a trailer house is there. The main percieved problem is the traffic and activity all over the property. Like I said none of the individual parts are that bad but the sum of all wears on some people especially when the hunting has not been great the last two years.

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        #4
        My landowner doesn't live there but he is there almost every weekend. He is a great guy and doesn't bother us at all. He does his best to limit pasture travel to check on cows till when we are done hunting and back in camp.

        I totally respect him and his property and know that he can do whatever he wants when he wants but like I said he does his best not to interfere with our hunting.

        We have a great landowner and boy that makes a HUGE difference in a lease.

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          #5
          Buy him a tailgate feeder and give him corn to throw while he drives around.

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            #6
            Mine lives there. I killed my biggest deer 500 yards from the house.

            Heck, the landowner is my scout. Always telling me when deer are seen, what time, how many points the buck had, etc.

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              #7
              Our landowner lives on the property and the road to their house goes right through our camp so we see him and his wife everytime where there and multiple times a day. But our landowner is awesome and goes out of his way to help us out and is more of a friend than landowner. This next season will make 25 years there! We are def spoiled but we arent complaining ! His wife actually wanted me to set up a bowstand in their front yard because the deer were coming up on the porch eating her flowers haha

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                #8
                Our landowner lives on our lease but our camp is about 500 yards from her house. She's a great landowner and we have no problems whatsoever with her. She does have some renters in a house on the property as well and other than the traffic in and out they havent bothered us. The vehicles dont seem to bother the deer either.

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                  #9
                  This is a tough call and only you and the other hunters on the place can determine if there is to much traffic on a place. Like stated earlier, you can sling corn while driving on the place and in a few years they will start running to every vehicle that drives out there.

                  One of the best places I've hunted was north of Menard and the deer would just stop and look at you as you drove by. The ranchers drove out there everyday checking and feeding cattle, so it didn't bother them driving around the place. The land owner did not live on the place.
                  On the flip side, I've leased places that the deer would run before you got within 300 yards of them and would not stop until they were over half a mile away. If the deer are doing that, they are probably being shot at from people driving around and if thats the case, I'd walk. The landowner lived on this place. And I've also been on a place where the landowner lived on the property and was leasing the place for day hunts when we were not there.

                  The bottom line is this will continue to eat at yall if yall just pass it off so I'd say to do one of two things. 1st, talk to the owner and tell him the concerns the group has and that it has contributed to past members leaving. ASK if there is anything that both parties can do for everyone to be happy with the way things are on the lease. If he's a good dude, things will get worked out and you'll continue to have a good place. OR 2nd, hook onto some trailers, grab your stuff, and never look back.

                  Good luck with what ever yall decided to do

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                    #10
                    My impression of the guy was he is very anul!

                    That being said, I'd say y'alls deal is pretty good and I would still probably take a spot if I was looking.

                    Chances are me and Ed would have a bad day together eventually.




                    We may be adding another 2400 acre pasture to our lease this season! You need to get over the extra hour and make the move!

                    Just bring the roadrunner!

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                      #11
                      When I was a kid I'd jump at the chance to ride in the back of Mr. Hunter's old beat up truck when he made the rounds checking on cattle. You could hear that truck coming miles away but the deer would barely look up at it passing just yards away.

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                        #12
                        Your right Todd, he is very set in his ways and wants everything a certain way, most of us just get a good laugh later but to new guys or people that didn't grow up around someone like that it gets to them. Like I said it's the same as the traffic and others being out there for one thing or another, it's minor by itself but when they all occur frequently it adds up. It makes my life as the lease manager difficult when I constantly have to tell everyone," let
                        me talk to him and get it taken care of."
                        We have only been there two years but I have put alot of time and effort in it already and it's hard to turn lose of it hoping I might find a better deal somewhere else. For the most part he let's me run it the way I see fit and he agrees with most suggestions I make or meets me half way. He just nit pics on small everyday decisions, and those are the most annoying.
                        As far as discussing it with him, I did after last year and he has made an effort to not drive during hunting times. That's not really the prob. The traffic problem is during non hunting times and we aren't there. It's hard to tell people who are gun shy that the landowner, friends and family aren't hunting when we are not there.
                        Last edited by KactusKiller; 01-28-2012, 12:55 AM.

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                          #13
                          Anybody have some more cheese and crackers to go with my whine!

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                            #14
                            I don't mind the traffic on our place....we have the landowner with his cows and the oilfield guys checking their stuff. They drive white diesels...Nick and I drive white diesels. I think it makes for a calmer deer when we go fill feeders or even going to the stand.

                            The random shooting would irk me closer to season but not really in the off season.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by KactusKiller View Post
                              Anybody have some more cheese and crackers to go with my whine!
                              better than having a lease manger that breaks all the rules...

                              i would not worry about the land owner to much
                              Last edited by crittergitter; 01-28-2012, 01:51 AM.

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